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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:16 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Maria and LLD are my two strongest scum reads as of now.

Unwnd is hatcheting noted.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:17 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 2413, Flavor Leaf wrote:I said I would hammer you.
Well, this is quite the dilemma.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:17 pm
by unwnd
Motherfucker I will axe you, forget about hatcheting

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:17 pm
by SirCakez
What is hatcheting

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:17 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2387, Bell wrote:
In post 2380, Dunnstral wrote:I don't think Noraa is scummy for their play
What do you think they're scummy for then?
I don't think they're scummy...

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:17 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 2422, Fermis Flames wrote:
In post 2406, unwnd wrote:Man I really hate Flavor Leaf's posting please someone tell me why he's townread he's so full of himself
FL being egotistical is an FL thing. He likes to point at everyone in the list and call it scum so he can claim the correct solve in the endgame. Just ignore him.
-spin
Severe misread of my playstyle will eventually wreck ya

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:18 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 2428, SirCakez wrote:What is hatcheting
Scum discredit chop chop chop attempts to keep momentum down

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:18 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 2427, unwnd wrote:Motherfucker I will axe you, forget about hatcheting

What do you think a hatchet is?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:18 pm
by MariaR
In post 2424, unwnd wrote:
In post 2421, MariaR wrote:
In post 2417, unwnd wrote:
In post 2414, MariaR wrote:
In post 2406, unwnd wrote:Man I really hate Flavor Leaf's posting please someone tell me why he's townread he's so full of himself
Na his narrative is dreadfully obvious even more so if you think about it from a Wolf Cakez POV. I shouldn't need to go into details on this though.
This gives me slight assurance about you
No need to worry friend~
Well now that you've used the tilde I'm worried again...
Can't you just townread me from game start like I do you without fail for once? You're breaking my heart

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:19 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 2423, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Brian - I think we’re correct in regards to LLD, but I don’t have faith in us being able to push it through.
Rip Day 1 LLD Dream-wagon.

To be fair, I was never expecting it to happen over Cakez anyway.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:19 pm
by REAGAN BUSH 84
In post 2406, unwnd wrote:Man I really hate Flavor Leaf's posting please someone tell me why he's townread he's so full of himself
is being full of himself scummy? i like the way he's looking at things even if some of it is a little out there. recent posts where he was looking at peoples' trajectory on cakez was good, an eye for big picture stuff, what people are doing as the game progresses. you keep mentioning some dislike of him that seems almost entirely based in stylistic issues and never crosses the bridge to scum

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:19 pm
by Bell
I learned recently that scum equity was a term in professional poker and that it had nothing to do with stocks btw.

So I was wrong. It means the probability of a hand winning, so high scum equity = high chance of them flipping scum.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:19 pm
by unwnd
I dunno FL, I think if you had your way you'd just say 'hey man I'm wrong and I was just doin' me' and everyone would just be like slurp slurp slurp yes yes of course it makes perfect sense

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:19 pm
by Bell
That was @April.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:19 pm
by Cabd
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cakez

Important Role Related Info To Keep in Mind Before Reading
Spoiler:
I am a blade with negative town utility, and positive scum utility. My flavor hints that scum are aware I exist out there. As I am now claiming this factor, visiting me tonight is a scum claim. I am locked into driver with the first contractor... permanently. I will literally instavote you the next day, and keep my vote there forever until you night kill or mislim me.

The five names I posted are cakez, and other people who felt like they were either trying to feel out my role, or were weirdly NOT weirded out at the way I was hinting at being a driver. Except fferytammysyr. I included them for fun.



The Opening Phase

Spoiler:
In post 88, SirCakez wrote:Yeah Cabd is my Blade and I am a Driver we have weird role where we always have to link
This is a taylor-in-deathy-level scumclaim. This is my ability, and my flavor hints that scum is looking for me, without being specific about what they know. This is hella testing the reaction waters to see if anyone blinks. Ballsy. And technically it got me out, so... yeah?

The rest of psuedo RVS is nothing in particular that is super shiny.
In post 187, SirCakez wrote:Brian Skies?
More like Brian Scums
Hate this read, I know it's super early but like... Brian was transparently out the gate towning it the fuck up, ffery syr and tammy saw it from the getgo too.

Just gonna quote other early game posts that pinged weirdly:
In post 253, SirCakez wrote:
In post 236, Cabd wrote:Something is seriously wrong with the way the cake is opening this game.

I am currently driving so you're going to have to settle for the dump of voice to text but I can't place my finger on it but there's something really weird and evil in the way he's trying to be too light-hearted about this including his own wagon I really don't want this series of votes on him to get written off as RVS shenanigans I want it made explicitly clear that I have a actual genuine read that is beneath 50/50 rand on his alignment
Also you guys literally threatened to speed elim me day 1 before the game started so I don't see why you're surprised I'm not taking it super seriously
This is the start of the chain of posts where Cakez is REALLY wanting a specific casewall to argue against, but doesn't really try to intuit where I'm coming form, or argue in the general sense why he's town:
In post 470, SirCakez wrote:
In post 462, ManWithNoName wrote:
In post 459, SirCakez wrote:Fermis talk to me about your serious vote on me since Cabd won't
Are you hoping they convince you that you are scum or something?

I just don't get where this comes from as a town. I'd be more interested in people reading actual possible scum slots.

Hmmmmm......
I don't really understand why Cabd or them are SRing me so I'm hoping to be able to address their concerns because I'd rather work with them than against them this game


It is like... his single waking thought:
In post 655, SirCakez wrote:I can't wait for Cabd's wall :D
In post 669, SirCakez wrote:I see this game will continue the obnoxious trend of people SRing me without explaining why
In post 681, SirCakez wrote:
In post 677, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 669, SirCakez wrote:I see this game will continue the obnoxious trend of people SRing me without explaining why
Why does that bother you?
Because I dislike being scum read in general so I usually try to argue against why people are SRing me
I can't do that if people don't explain why
In post 682, SirCakez wrote:Thus why I'm excited for Cabd's wall
In post 685, SirCakez wrote:
In post 683, ManWithNoName wrote:But, yeah, I don't see this viewpoint from town on Cakez. Like, he's not going "Look at this read" it really feels like he's saying "Tell me why I'm scum!"
That is what I'm saying yes
More in this vein...
In post 919, SirCakez wrote:
In post 914, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 88, SirCakez wrote:Yeah Cabd is my Blade and I am a Driver we have weird role where we always have to link
Can you explain why you made this post?
it was a joke
because in Cabd and I's last game SOMEBODY fakeclaimed mason lover doctors with scum
so i did that and then added some flavor for funsies and then people took it seriously
In post 921, SirCakez wrote:
In post 915, Cabd wrote:Like I'm tired of having kickass day one scumreads and never getting it through because other shininess.

This is my
², Zanza, Bionis Aligned Odd-Night Ability Cop, was lynched Day 1.
this is just a lie considering we got Taylo0r through in literally our last game together
In post 1027, SirCakez wrote:You know what does not spark joy in me Cabd?
Whenever you post and it's not your casewall
In post 1038, SirCakez wrote:Cabd there's no fucking way you're still in the drive like for covid test
Calling out this next one because it was immediately dropped and never went anywhere. At no point has it EVER felt like cakez was even remotely consitering I could be anything other than town pushing him.
In post 1040, SirCakez wrote:I'm starting to think you're just full of shit
Back to your regularly scheduled wall fixation...
In post 1041, SirCakez wrote:Because you know that I would be asking for a wall here regardless of alignment because I hate being pushed when people can't explain it
And you're just trying to push my buttons more now
In post 1043, SirCakez wrote:Sorry Cabd I like you but I can't stand this playstyle and push from you
In post 1047, SirCakez wrote:You're posting is totally insufferable rn
It's just like Alisae 2.0 where e was like "hmm look at the scum posting goo!!" And then I was town and e was all shocked but not really


Midgame Weirdness Around Noraa

Spoiler:
In post 492, SirCakez wrote:
In post 483, Flavor Leaf wrote:Pretty sure Noraa is actual scum here, guys.
Pour que?
Notably, first mention of Noraa in his ISO besides the weird NORAAAAAAAAAAAAAA callout thingie. Anyways. This goes absolutely nowhere for a loooong time.

Now the cakez wagon is very possibly going to elimination status, and it resurfaces...
In post 948, SirCakez wrote:the bigger discussion here is why Noraa is not giving me any town vibes at all when I usually get them from her immediately
There's a big back and forth here. It's the sequence of posts that Cobra and Flavor Leaf noted as scum theater. I tend to agree. The fixation on "specific meta from Betrayal" is super weird, like they are both trying to focus on something loud and shiny to talk over.

The back and forth gets dropepd again, cakez goes back to being all "Wall when noobs" and Noraa fades from his topics. Dare I say...

TRAJECTORY TRAJECTORY TRAJECTORY DANGER WILL ROBINSON.

Like go back and read Cakez in ISO. It's like the second he feels that theatering with Noraa isn't working, it just vanishes. Poof. Into the ether.

It then resurfaces a LOT of pages later.. here:
In post 1630, SirCakez wrote:my BM vote is really stale and not going anywhere
VOTE: Noraa
I'd like to try this
her pop-ins yesterday were so bad
seems like she's not even trying, just complaining
which does not make for a town Noraa
Note this is his actual first time voting Noraa. Despite fixating on her, he never left the Battle Mage vote he'd made super early into the game.


Crocodile Hammer Tears

Spoiler:
Like... you either see these as being super obviously overblown and fake, or you probably disagree with all the other points I already made..
In post 1784, SirCakez wrote:hi bork I love you
In post 1785, SirCakez wrote:bring me sweet release
In post 1790, SirCakez wrote:Fermis what are you hoping for I'm hammered
In post 1795, SirCakez wrote:Bork just hasn't finished counting yet
In post 1798, SirCakez wrote:Cuz I was at L3 then Midway and fermis revoted and then LLD hammered
In post 1801, SirCakez wrote:Also please elim BM
I can't stand that he's acting like my push on him is the reason I'm dying
In post 1802, SirCakez wrote:I was a Tracker Blade
In post 1824, SirCakez wrote:Take me to the Lakes where all the poets went to die
I don't belong and, my beloved, neither do you
Those Windermere peaks look like a perfect place to cry
I'm setting off, but not without my muse
In post 1832, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1782, borkjerfkin wrote:
Votecount 1.8


[10] SirCakez (Cabd, ManWithNoName, MariaR, Bell, Battle Mage, Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald, Fermis Flames, midwaybear, Lady Lambdadelta)
[2] Flavor Leaf (noraa, unwnd)
[2] Lady Lambdadelta (Firebringer, l4pe)
[2] noraa (SirCakez, Guillotina)
[1] Battle Mage (beeboy)
[1] Cobra Kai (REAGAN BUSH 84)
[1] Gamma Emerald (Brian Skies)
[1] unwnd (Flavor Leaf)

[2] Not Voting (Cobra Kai, Will catch up later maybe)

With 22 alive, it is 12 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-30 13:00:00)
FFS IM NOT DEAD

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:20 pm
by Bell
In post 2437, unwnd wrote:I dunno FL, I think if you had your way you'd just say 'hey man I'm wrong and I was just doin' me' and everyone would just be like slurp slurp slurp yes yes of course it makes perfect sense
How can you be scum reading this.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:20 pm
by MariaR
Notice how FL has gone for people he considers weaker but he won't ever try pushing the bigger fish with real reasoning? It's so painful. Not my problem though since Cakez is dying.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:20 pm
by Will catch up later maybe
i don't remember why i thought they were scum lol

just remember not liking some posts from them

i know one of the posts i didnt like from l dude was on the first page though, that's all i remember atm

*shrug*

i have time to read stuff prob tonight so ill look back over posts then if it matters

-Nacho

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:20 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 2434, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 2423, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Brian - I think we’re correct in regards to LLD, but I don’t have faith in us being able to push it through.
Rip Day 1 LLD Dream-wagon.

To be fair, I was never expecting it to happen over Cakez anyway.
That’s fine. I’m okay with a Cakez wagon and end the day early.

I just think I want it on hard record that I think Cakez is gonna flip town, and i await whoever tries to push a TMI on me.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:20 pm
by Bell
*Doesn't read it*

Brilliant I'm convinced.
Let's get Cakez.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:21 pm
by Cabd
I didn't proofread that shit, sorry in advance for the three people who read it, not sorry in advance for the scumbutt about to go and try and make a rebuttal of it.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:21 pm
by REAGAN BUSH 84
well

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:22 pm
by Brian Skies
Let me know when we get to E-2 so FL and I can double-hammer.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:22 pm
by MariaR
Cabd would you like me to visit you so you can pick me regardless or just leave it be?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:22 pm
by REAGAN BUSH 84
maybe bush will be able to catch up during the 4 day night