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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:58 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2422, Frogsterking wrote:Math I still don't know why you think Pooky is Town. His ISO is extremely scummy.
I disagree and think his ISO is quite townie.

I don’t know why you find it scummy.

I guess it doesn’t really matter as we will have the checks one way or another.

If I die and you’re still convinced he’s scum (which my death should really tip you off he’s probably town)

Then take a deep breath for five minutes and wait and see what Pooky does.

If he’s scum and I am vi he will have to give spew.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:59 pm
by MathBlade
This game just really reminds me of lost and other games he is slow to launch in.

I think you have an established tendency to tunnel Pooky way too much Frog,

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:03 pm
by MathBlade
Like if NM town Pooky scum Pooky will be dead unless one shot BP.
If scum try to shoot Pooky to fake NMs shot then I get the result of 1 killing and 1 protective and no second shot which itself is sus but I doubt NM doesn’t back out in scum NM world when he had the chance

Like scum Pooky should be the least of your concerns.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:04 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2424, MathBlade wrote:I think you have an established tendency to tunnel Pooky way too much Frog,
Nah, you can have your opinion but you don't have enough data points to claim that your opinion is established.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:04 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2425, MathBlade wrote:Like if NM town Pooky scum Pooky will be dead unless one shot BP.
If scum try to shoot Pooky to fake NMs shot then I get the result of 1 killing and 1 protective and no second shot which itself is sus but I doubt NM doesn’t back out in scum NM world when he had the chance

Like scum Pooky should be the least of your concerns.
I thought NM was joking though?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:05 pm
by MathBlade
And in the one shot BP world BCG ‘s visit won’t show

Just breathe and let things develop.

If Furtive is scum I doubt scum have two roleblockers here so patience.

Scum will have to pick which poison.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:05 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2427, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2425, MathBlade wrote:Like if NM town Pooky scum Pooky will be dead unless one shot BP.
If scum try to shoot Pooky to fake NMs shot then I get the result of 1 killing and 1 protective and no second shot which itself is sus but I doubt NM doesn’t back out in scum NM world when he had the chance

Like scum Pooky should be the least of your concerns.
I thought NM was joking though?
Nope he said he was serious

Will pull the post

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:06 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2335, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm serious but I'm stunned nobody really questioned my claim because it's a Day 4 Innocent Child level claim

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:09 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2428, MathBlade wrote:And in the one shot BP world BCG ‘s visit won’t show

Just breathe and let things develop.

If Furtive is scum I doubt scum have two roleblockers here so patience.

Scum will have to pick which poison.
BcG is probably scum too though? Does that change anything?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:10 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2431, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2428, MathBlade wrote:And in the one shot BP world BCG ‘s visit won’t show

Just breathe and let things develop.

If Furtive is scum I doubt scum have two roleblockers here so patience.

Scum will have to pick which poison.
BcG is probably scum too though? Does that change anything?
If BCG is scum too then assuming no RBs

NM shoots Pooky. BGC loyal BG dies as scum. NM and I tunnel Pooky to death.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:10 pm
by Frogsterking
Pooky's ISO looks nothing like Lost. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:10 pm
by MathBlade
What’s more likely if BCG is loyal scum he won’t visit BCG tonight because that’s a scum claim.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:11 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2433, Frogsterking wrote:Pooky's ISO looks nothing like Lost. I have no idea what you're talking about.
And I have no idea why you say they’re different. Agree to disagree?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:13 pm
by Frogsterking
Pooky was one of the highest activity posters D1 in Lost and was actively sorting people. I think the similarities only exist in your imagination.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:15 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2436, Frogsterking wrote:Pooky was one of the highest activity posters D1 in Lost and was actively sorting people. I think the similarities only exist in your imagination.
I think a good majority of D1 lost posts were jokes.

Take those out and it’s about the same ratio of content.

I legit don’t get why you’re still hampering on Pooky.

It’s really antitown at this point. We just disagree. That’s okay.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:15 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2435, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2433, Frogsterking wrote:Pooky's ISO looks nothing like Lost. I have no idea what you're talking about.
And I have no idea why you say they’re different. Agree to disagree?
No. Just look at how much Pooky posted D1in Lost compared to here. There is no similarity. You weren't actively sorting people D1 in Lost because u were scum and that was months ago. I think you got your wires crossed at some point.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:18 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2437, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2436, Frogsterking wrote:Pooky was one of the highest activity posters D1 in Lost and was actively sorting people. I think the similarities only exist in your imagination.
I think a good majority of D1 lost posts were jokes.

Take those out and it’s about the same ratio of content.

I legit don’t get why you’re still hampering on Pooky.

It’s really antitown at this point. We just disagree. That’s okay.
No it really isn't antiTown because I don't believe you are familiar with Pooky's D1 ISO in Lost at all. You're pushing misinformation by claiming that they're similar. You can have your opinion but if you present misinformation as fact to support your opinion, I will call you out on it.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:18 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2438, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2435, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2433, Frogsterking wrote:Pooky's ISO looks nothing like Lost. I have no idea what you're talking about.
And I have no idea why you say they’re different. Agree to disagree?
No. Just look at how much Pooky posted D1in Lost compared to here. There is no similarity. You weren't actively sorting people D1 in Lost because u were scum and that was months ago. I think you got your wires crossed at some point.
I have no interest of redoing the same task I already did at 11 o clock at night when I likely die.

I think he’s town. If I live until tomorrow and it’s necessary then I will redo it.

I fail to see how redoing the same task will generate a different result.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:28 pm
by Frogsterking
Here's a completely random excerpt from Pooky's D1 ISO in Lost. Let me know if you can spot any differences to his D1 ISO here:
In post 444, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:my way too early townlist is:

Dunnstral
Malcolm
Bell
Klick
Cat Scratch Fever
Toogeloo

I make no representations about accuracy but I didn't bullshit any of these I think.
In post 445, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:oh snap forgot to add my main man Pengy

he should be on there I think.


Cult Recruitment Drive 1.0:

Pengy
Dunnstral
Malcolm
Bell
Klick
Cat Scratch Fever
Toogeloo


If you're on the above list, congrats you received a Townread of DUBIOUS accuracy and I will be recruiting you into my awesome cult for at least today.

This will entitle you to the following perks:

(1) Your choice of COLOR in the OFFICIAL PAGETOP SCOREBOARD
(2) A Nickname picked out by me[Please let me know if you want to opt out or if you do not like your nickname]
(3) Extremely well written fanfiction about your exploits on the Island[Please let me know if you want to opt out]
(4) Premium Front Row Seats to a Day One Bandwagon of Pooky's Choice[First Come First Serve, Suggestions Welcome!]
(5) Your profile picture edited into memes that may or may not accurately represent things that happened in the game.
In post 447, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you have to do something townie first dude
In post 492, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i agree that it seems fake af but have u ever played with rh9

that dude loves to talk. literally nonstop all the time. i dont understand he would decide to fake a pr that limits his ability to talk. it feels super anti fun.
In post 636, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:true

we should let Cephrir live through today because policying him on d1 every time just because he's always scum feels very unsporting and mean and we love Ceph
In post 637, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also am I biased here but he seemed way townier in ktane or was that just because I was informed of his alignment that game
In post 641, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 517, Frogsterking wrote:I'm reading my interaction with Galron as SvT.
this is such a weird line

who ever even says shit like this?

like it's self evident that you are town then the other person is scum, so just call Galron scum for ???? reasons
In post 642, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ngl i think a reason he says this is cuz he thinks he's going to die today cuz I said I was going to feed him to the polar bears and now he's trying to anti-spew his scumbuddy Galron clear with a lolnonsense argument that doesn't even make sense
In post 643, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 561, Klick wrote:I'm told Luke's scum game is scary but equally he's had some good takes. I think he's probably a net positive on the game state.
Bruh Luke is an expert at writing "good takes" as scum

but he's not a day one issue
In post 646, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 593, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:So 17 pages have happened since I went to work.

That's always nice. Got some reading to do. Or not. See how I feel.
this feels like something scum say sometimes

dunno if anyone has meta on this person
In post 648, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:dude I've been giving you a pass cuz you sound rusty
In post 651, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:wow this dragon is on fireeeeee
In post 656, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:this sounds like a vicious cycle
In post 666, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:lol @ all the people claiming frogster is geniune

dudes

this is what frogster town in the last large theme I played with him sounded like:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

he sounds literally nothing like that right now.

his posts sound like they r copypastas that he found somewhere and randomly started pasting into the thread.

This is as freaky as if one of the people was speaking english on the plane and landed and suddenly started speaking chinese instead.
In post 669, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:um frogster!town in ktane was so inflexible with his reads he literally blew up a claimed innocent child and then claimed afterwards that the dead IC was a changeling
In post 670, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we did just play the same game with the dude right?
In post 677, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:winning/losing has nothing to do with your ability/skill
In post 681, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am definitely your father Luke
In post 685, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 683, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 681, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am definitely your father Luke
And you still won't let me into your cult?

Rude.

tough love
In post 712, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:p sure half the characters in the show are philosophers
In post 714, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:wasnt he scum with you two
In post 716, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i should know since I was number 4 LOL THANKS FOR THE CARRY BELL
In post 744, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 720, Dunnstral wrote:I don't remember ever seeing Luke as scum. They look a lot like town to me.

I liked Enchant's posts. I agree that it is a waste of time to try to solve the 100 post player today. I think they are likely to be town, too.

Not sure what Bellaphant doesn't like about my posts. And while I'm talking about Bellaphant, she said she would give Roden a pass for today because their image made her laugh. I don't intend to give anyone a pass, except the 100 post player who I personally feel would be a bad elimination target today.

Toogeloo is the third player (at least) to not realize that flavor and alignment are divorced from each other, or to fake that.
my rule for reading luke is as follows:

the more townie the dude looks

the more likely he is to be a scumbag

i've never seen a scumbag get townread so much as scum and scumread so much as town its absolutely wild
In post 761, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 746, JohnnyFarrar wrote:So I should vote Luke? That doesn't seem right
nah I would never wagon luke right away i'd feel bad about that shit

i'm just saying if its getting late in the game and dude looks townie as fuck and for some weird reason he's
not dying at night
you should probly yeet him immediately
In post 762, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 745, Frogsterking wrote:I don't think there is anything worth responding to as far as my wagon goes, Pooky thinks I'm copy pasting my posts, Johnny was a naked vote, Galron's push was wolfy, etc.

I think Pooky, Malcolm and Luke are the most likely to be genuinely wrong about my alignment.
I'm glad you stopped copy pasting posts dude
In post 775, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:hey I make memes about the Animal Police Department when I'm town too
In post 776, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:oh snap i wasn't even trying to get that one
In post 781, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 778, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 775, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:hey I make memes about the Animal Police Department when I'm town too
But you don’t usually glut the thread with them. You also don’t sound like you’re trying to pocket the playerlist.
Says Nancy as she falls deeper into my pocket :>
In post 785, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think she's fine so far
In post 794, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:bruh after catboi flipped as an IC your response was to swear he was a
changeling
and the mod was trolling us with a bastard game...

I absolutely do not believe you somehow developed humility rofl
In post 864, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 858, Bell wrote:Half truths aside,
I dunno. I've never been able to read Galron and my default desire is to auto-kill them.
I've played with Frogster once. I don't like Pooky's push there because it's insane when you think about it. But I'm happy to let it sit.
Mostly I just keep getting tempted to slap Frog's ego down. Which I tend to think is a town thing. But I dunno. I don't know frog that well.
I think Bell not liking me pushing Frogster only increases the odds that Frogster will flip scum here
In post 867, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 863, Bell wrote:I wish I could vote 5-8 people right now.
You could always just put a list of people you'd be willing to vote for instead of actually voting
In post 883, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Right now I'm around here:

Cult Recruitment 1.1:

PenguinPower
Dunnstral
Malcolm
Bell
Klick
Cat Scratch Fever
Toogeloo
T-Bone
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9)


On the Waitlist:
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
Roden
Rad
The toad
Enchant
Dwlee99
Bellaphant
Lukewarm


Willing to Feed to Polar Bears:

Cephrir
JohnnyFarrar
Corwinoid
BlueBloodedToffee
Galron
Frogsterking
And no in case anyone is wondering I wasn't scum in Lost, so the claim that I have an established tendency to tunnel Pooky is ???

If anything we have an established tendency to tunnel each other, but we've only played like 2 games together so it's a pretty stupid claim either way.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:31 pm
by MathBlade
It was mentioned earlier in thread you were this level of sure Pooky was scum when he wasn’t.

I legit don’t get your point here.

We are elimming Furtive today.

It’s established you really really really think Pooky is scum.

What goal are you trying to accomplish when if Pooky is scum he’s likely dead?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:35 pm
by MathBlade
If it’s that I could be wrong, sure I have said that…that’s partially why this plan exists, honestly probably the main contributor.

What is your goal spamming that Pooky is scum repeatedly here?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:53 pm
by Frogsterking
In post 2442, MathBlade wrote:It was mentioned earlier in thread you were this level of sure Pooky was scum when he wasn’t.

I legit don’t get your point here.

We are elimming Furtive today.

It’s established you really really really think Pooky is scum.

What goal are you trying to accomplish when if Pooky is scum he’s likely dead?
You claimed that Pooky's D1 ISO in Lost is similar to his D1 ISO in this game and then suggested we "agree to disagree" and instead I'm supplying incontrovertible evidence that no, Pooky is not playing "slow to start" this game "like he did in Lost." He isn't playing anything at all like he did D1 in Lost. You're opinion is valid but none of the reasons you have supplied (thus far) to defend your opinion are valid. Pooky's role doesn't fit with the setup as Town!aligned since Town already has 2 role cops unless I'm just completely snowed by Titus, I don't have an "established tendency" to tunnel Pooky, and Pooky's ISO looks nothing like his ISO from the Town game you claimed he is replicating here. So far, FMPOV I can't give you credit for anything other than a gut read that Pooky is Town, because each of your rationale that you've provided have been easily shot down. There's nothing wrong with having a gut read that Pooky is Town but I don't share that gut read and you aren't doing a good job convincing me to change my mind, and I hope no one else is being convinced by you either because you are claiming things which are factually untrue in order to make your read appear more logical than it is.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:56 pm
by MathBlade
And I still think the ISOs are similar and it’s a slow start.

You’re saying something is factually untrue when you have a different opinion interpreting the ISOs.

Redoing the ISO because you got a different conclusion won’t make me have a different conclusion.

Are you trying to convince me or yourself?

My opinion matters little when I likely will be dead.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:57 pm
by MathBlade
If you wish to label it as a “gut read” fine do so.

This is just spam and is not productive.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:58 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2350, Enchant wrote:
In post 2305, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2230, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2229, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2225, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2224, Enchant wrote:
In post 2218, Enchant wrote:
In post 2216, Enchant wrote:Not_Mafia -
Jester
Novice disloyal vig
Spoiler: Acts
N1: No Action
>> Action tonight visit Pooky

Enchant - Modified Investigative
Spoiler: Acts
N1: No Action

Frogsterking - Rolecop
Spoiler: Acts
N1: furtive. Result - JOAT (roleblocker, alien, tracker)

Big Chungus Gaming - Loyal Bodyguard
Spoiler: Acts
N1: ???
>> Action tonight visit Pooky

furtiveglance - JOAT (roleblocker, alien, tracker) <<Elim for today after changing claim
Spoiler: Acts
N1: ???

PookyTheMagicalBear - Follower
Spoiler: Acts
N1: Titus. Result: Investigative Action

Cape90 - Claims "Not Investigative"
Titus - Modified Rolecop
Spoiler: Acts
N1: MalcolmTucker. Result - Vanilla

Toogeloo - Fucking Bullshiter
MathBlade - Vouyer
Spoiler: Acts
N1: Cape90. Result: No one visited.
>> Action tonight visit Pooky

marcistar - Modified Tracker
Spoiler: Acts:
N1: No Action

Save The Dragons - Didn't Claim
MalcolmTucker - Vanilla Townie
MariaR - Vanilla Townie
Alisae - Vanilla Townie
kittytacky - Fruit Vendor

Spoiler: Acts
N1: Not_Mafia



Did i miss anything?

Done.
Updated
Corrected
Fixed. Thanks for the correction
Now super fixed
Anyone else DO NOT VISIT POOKY IF KILLING OR PROTECTIVE
ULTRA fixed. I moved all Vanilla claims and noclaimers late in notes so it's not pain to read.
So this isn’t lost