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Why are all the people who believe is mastina unwilling to work with her*

In post 2394, unwnd wrote:I am not voting off someone who protects from a likely arsonist in this setup e.g firefighter

Yes in a setup with no 3rd parties.

In post 2397, Yume wrote:I am not voting mastina, nor are a few others. So pick someone else to mislim.

Or how about we don’t mis Lim?

Why don't we think that Solar Cult have factional arsonist?

Yeah I’m likely the original solve I had.


Mastina/Bunny/PPF

Unwnd/FA/Scarf, RR or MMR

In post 2428, Enchant wrote:Why don't we think that Solar Cult have factional arsonist?

Ah yeah I guess that’s possible.

Nancy can yell at me later but I don't have the stomach to lim a doctor claim D1.

UNVOTE:

Putting my 5 cents.

I think RR town. Really. Otherwise i would hammer already.

While it's right idea to say that RR is "real" but can be from Lunar, i am kinda wary of these statements, as it's easily best argument you can use and not look bad.

In post 2426, professotic wrote:

In post 2394, unwnd wrote:I am not voting off someone who protects from a likely arsonist in this setup e.g firefighter

Yes in a setup with no 3rd parties.

I don't understand your counter-argument

There is nothing implicitly scum-oriented with a firefighter claim

Am I going to have to bully a lim through? I just want to write.

~Titus

Sorry for misgendering you earlier . If the scumteams need to yeet the other one, then in my opinion it makes sense for Lunar to have a defense against Solar.

I see Aisa has unvoted and I’m good with that for now. Will get back to the game after work.

~Greeting

In post 2432, Enchant wrote:Putting my 5 cents.

I think RR town. Really. Otherwise i would hammer already.

While it's right idea to say that RR is "real" but can be from Lunar, i am kinda wary of these statements, as it's easily best argument you can use and not look bad.

Re: RR claim is lunar but real

I don't agree, I think it's a town claim. I know this game is slightly bastard but the balance of power between solar/lunar would seem heavily skewed in lunar's favor. If I'm solar here and the other faction can meddle with my kill power indirectly I'd be pretty pissed.

Furthermore, if one faction had a factional kill arsonist, that would also be bs. How could town fight that? Hmmm

In post 2424, unwnd wrote:I don't really want to engage with it, to be honest. I get the feeling others don't either, which is why there isn't much feedback.

Why are all the people who believe mastina is not town unwilling to work with her? Why is mastina not questioning this 'allegiance' in any sort of way, and instead making this a Us v Them scenario lol

I am working with Mastina by letting her screw her long term play if she’s scum as I suspect she is.

People don’t want to hear my reminders that she is scum.
She still hasn’t claimed mind anyone despite being on L-whatever for the longest time.
Clearly her role isn’t similar to mine or she would have CCd

Mainly I can get more hunting (and work) done by being quiet.
The more Mastina speaks the more I can figure out long term plays she may have and if she is town (doubtful) I can fix my read.

The RR wagon I find incredibly suspicious.

I am working with her in a weird way but I don’t trust her at all.

I would give scum faction way to protect members if i was mod, so they more inclined to try eliminate opposition at days.

That post was directed to the people who townread her

If mastina is so obvtown then why does she seem like an island. Nobody is directly interacting with her

Also idk what burns even means. It could be arsonist, poisoner, ANYTHING.

So idk

I don’t burn. So I am tempted to believe that the claim is town aligned. Similar to NBII

What?

In post 2439, Enchant wrote:I would give scum faction way to protect members if i was mod, so they more inclined to try eliminate opposition at days.

Might agree if it was an exact doctor claim but the fire alarms are ringing in my head. Whatever RR protects from sounds like a role that marks you, which is bad

Oh right you're a vigi.

VOTE: mastina

In post 2440, unwnd wrote:That post was directed to the people who townread her

If mastina is so obvtown then why does she seem like an island. Nobody is directly interacting with her

Avoid spew pretty much.
As I said earlier the wagons are focused on being off Mastina more so than on a target.

However the more they shop the narrower that gets. Unless of course they intentionally bus now that I have brought it up.

I'm not ready to think everyone whom is townreading mastina is part of her faction, though?

Mastina is scum for her actions alone and I would very much like to see that through

In post 2447, unwnd wrote:I'm not ready to think everyone whom is townreading mastina is part of her faction, though?

Not so much part of her faction per se but scum adjacent.
Mastina is notorious for having D1 reads backwards as town then eventually fixing it.
Several players have a flip Mastina’s reads rule.

(Granted I think this is toxic AF and don’t condone it)

The more Mastina pushes after bad the less scum have to care.

I’d expect a good majority townreading Mastina (regardless of the system’s alignment) to be some kind of evil.
Some evil may be acting on the knowledge that she’s not evil with her team and therefore fake the strong TR as the odds are slimmer from their POV