Guys let's not rush this day. Half of the people in the game don't even know the day has started yet.
MOD: I would suggest changing the topic title.
unvote
since a quickhammer pretty much screws us over at this point.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:25 pm
by Eddard Stark
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:27 pm
by CSL
I was going to lynch MoI in lylo anyways.
RichardGHP wrote:
FoS CSL
CSL wrote:Why the finger?
Answer, please.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:30 pm
by RichardGHP
Oh, that.
"Hope Unsight is scum", you said. Or something to that effect. It has the same connotation as publicly congratulating the doctor after a no kill, or cursing after a PR dies. Trying too hard to look town.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:33 pm
by CSL
I see.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:34 pm
by RichardGHP
Is that all you have to say about that?
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:38 pm
by CSL
Yeah. Why?
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:41 pm
by RichardGHP
No reason. Just wanted to know for various intents, possibly purposes.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:50 pm
by Macavitar
Can people please unvote so we can make this day work for us? There's a lot we have to do today. L-2 is basically a position where the scum can work together to end the day, if that's in their best interests. If I get lynched, there's every chance you'll end up in a 1-1-1 kingmaker scenario or a 2-1 LYLO tomorrow, and I'd like at least some chance to get us to lynch scum today.
First of all, nothing's really changed in regards to my claim. Brienne was in the game, I was looking for her. It all makes even more sense now that hascow flipped vanilla. I targeted hascow over last night to recruit, as was obvious, and the Lannister had to kill hascow last night no matter what, so that I continue to look dirty. There's no new information there.
Secondly, with Mina flipping Tracker, there
is
potentially additional information to be had. We need to go back through her posts (and maybe hascow's too), to see if there are any crumbs as to clearing people of being one scum family or another. Right now, as far as I see it, we've got the following:
Potentially Either Family
Magna
CSL
Not Greyjoy
diddin - Name claim confirmed by Locke
Mac - Track to not-the-Greyjoy kill target by Mina
Almost Certainly Not Either
Richard - Name claim connected to JVW
Thor - Day vig
But if we dig through some of Minas' posts, we might find more clearings, or useful information. Am I missing anything there right now?
Richard, I'm not understanding this exchange:
CSL wrote:Magna is scum?
Vote: Macavitar
RichardGHP wrote:I suppose. Pity it didn't work out.
I mean, I still like Magna for Greyjoy too, but why isn't it CSL? We need to narrow down suspects before we make today's lynch happen.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:54 pm
by RichardGHP
I was responding to diddin, not CSL.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:55 pm
by Macavitar
Ah, I see. Makes sense then. Can you unvote please?
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:57 pm
by RichardGHP
And I don't really see CSL as any sort of scum, to be honest. If anything he reads as Third Party but that's long gone.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:57 pm
by RichardGHP
Mac. Do you find it more likely that there are 2 scum on the same team left or two opposing sum?
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:57 pm
by RichardGHP
*Scum
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:09 pm
by Macavitar
RichardGHP wrote:And I don't really see CSL as any sort of scum, to be honest. If anything he reads as Third Party but that's long gone.
Why not scum? Can you actually read CSL?
RichardGHP wrote:Mac. Do you find it more likely that there are 2 scum on the same team left or two opposing scum?
Almost certainly 2 opposing scum. Doesn't mean they couldn't independently decide to try to end the day as quickly as possible to reduce town information gathering/coordination and in the process ensure that they don't get lynched themselves.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:11 pm
by Macavitar
Oh, by the way, if you're pretty certain about CSL-not-scum, your choice for a lynch is obvious: Magna is the only other player remaining who could be Greyjoy.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:22 pm
by RichardGHP
There is still the whole Cow/you/mason thing...
and I very much doubt that the two opposing sucm you speak of know who each other are. Correct me if I am wrong?
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:24 pm
by RichardGHP
Unvote
If there was ever a rock and a hard place.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:27 pm
by Macavitar
RichardGHP wrote:There is still the whole Cow/you/mason thing...
Yes, there is, and I'm confused about the point you're trying to make here.
RichardGHP wrote:and I very much doubt that the two opposing sucm you speak of know who each other are. Correct me if I am wrong?
No, they probably don't, but I'm just saying that L-2 is a way too precarious position to be in at this point in the game.
Preview edit: Thanks.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:31 pm
by Macavitar
Macavitar wrote:Oh, by the way, if you're pretty certain about CSL-not-scum, your choice for a lynch is obvious: Magna is the only other player remaining who could be Greyjoy.
Oh, holy crap. CSL, this goes for you too. If you're not scum, why aren't you voting for Magna, the only possible Greyjoy remaining? Why are you Lannister hunting? Is it because you are in fact Greyjoy?
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:39 pm
by RichardGHP
Is there anything wrong with hunting a specific team?
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:45 pm
by Macavitar
Examine from CSL's perspective. If CSL is actually town, then there are 3 possible Lannisters: Me, diddin, Magna; but only 1 possible Greyjoy: Magna. Let me repeat: If CSL is town, then from his perspective Magna is
guaranteed scum
. If CSL is town, why should he care which team he's hunting? If he
knows
that Magna is scum, why would he vote me?
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:50 pm
by RichardGHP
Remind me how you and diddin are cleared of being Greyjoy?
CSL probably thinks you're confirmed scum as well. You aren't, but you're not far from it.
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:51 pm
by RichardGHP
Do you think that a mislynch today puts the game into Kingmaker on Day 7?
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:01 pm
by Macavitar
RichardGHP wrote:Remind me how you and diddin are cleared of being Greyjoy?
I
just
put it in a post.
Macavitar wrote:
Not Greyjoy
diddin - Name claim confirmed by Locke
Mac - Track to not-the-Greyjoy kill target by Mina
Let me make it more clear. For diddin, his confirmed name is Sandor Clegane. Purely by flavor, there is
no way
that Sandor is a Greyjoy. He's never worked with them, never crossed their paths. Literally everything else in this game has been flavorful, and making Sandor a Greyjoy would very much not be. Feel free to check an ASoIaF wiki.
As for me, over Night 4, I was Tracked to Mikujin. Mikujin was not the Greyjoy kill over Night 4, Locke Lamora was. Unless I can go two places at once, and the Track only follows me to one of them, I can not be Greyjoy.
RichardGHP wrote:CSL probably thinks you're confirmed scum as well. You aren't, but you're not far from it.
Don't make excuses for him. This might be a legitimate scum tell.
RichardGHP wrote:Do you think that a mislynch today puts the game into Kingmaker on Day 7?