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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:17 pm
by BBmolla
I think Toogeloo Boogeloo was scum and I think LeMidget is too by default

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:19 pm
by vezokpiraka
Oh forgot. I used my herder ability on majiffy last night.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:23 pm
by Aegor
PV was my target.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:29 pm
by Svenskt Stål
In post 2444, BBmolla wrote:I didn't get anything from the amn cop last night.

Mafia probably tried to kill me though.
That would mean that we horde killed thor

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:40 pm
by BBmolla
ooooooooooooooooooh

I thought snipe was our town collective vig but that's retarded cause it's the horde

Excuse me for being dumb

So our Horde kill was blocked??

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:44 pm
by Svenskt Stål
@Mod: Does the Zombie mechanic always produce one unique target, regardless of whether that person dies or not?
[/quote]
In post 2439, Venmar wrote:
In post 2438, Aegor wrote:
@Mod: Does the Zombie mechanic always produce one unique target, regardless of whether that person dies or not?
Yes, unless there isn't a majority.
In post 2440, Aegor wrote:
In post 2439, Venmar wrote:
In post 2438, Aegor wrote:
@Mod: Does the Zombie mechanic always produce one unique target, regardless of whether that person dies or not?
Yes, unless there isn't a majority.
@Mod: So, in the case of the random algorithm producing an equal number of votes for two players, no zombie kill would occur?
In post 2441, Venmar wrote:
In post 2440, Aegor wrote:
In post 2439, Venmar wrote:
In post 2438, Aegor wrote:
@Mod: Does the Zombie mechanic always produce one unique target, regardless of whether that person dies or not?
Yes, unless there isn't a majority.
@Mod: So, in the case of the random algorithm producing an equal number of votes for two players, no zombie kill would occur?
If such a scenario was to happen, yes.

Or this.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:44 pm
by Metal Sonic
oh it seems like town mislynched on day 1

no prfect win :(

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:48 pm
by Svenskt Stål
metal sonic, could you answer thequestion i directed towards you yesterday?

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:57 pm
by Aegor
Guys, Thor could theoretically redirected BBMolla onto himself. I am not sure why he would not pick a different random player, but it is possible. Also possible are a doc protect and a BP. If the consensus target was hella scummy, we should just lynch that person today. If someone could keep a tally of the claims, that would be great.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:34 pm
by BBmolla
Why would redirecting me onto myself do anything

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:37 pm
by Metal Sonic
In post 2457, Svenskt Stål wrote:metal sonic, could you answer thequestion i directed towards you yesterday?
pls find a dictionery next time

as·sume [uh-soom]
verb (used with object), as·sumed, as·sum·ing.
1. to take for granted or without proof: to assume that everyone wants peace. Synonyms: suppose, presuppose; postulate, posit.
2. to take upon oneself; undertake: to assume an obligation.
3. to take over the duties or responsibilities of: to assume the office of treasurer.
4. to take on (a particular character, quality, mode of life, etc.); adopt: He assumed the style of an aggressive go-getter.
5. to take on; be invested or endowed with: The situation assumed a threatening character.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:42 pm
by BBmolla
fwiw I could go Metal Sonic too

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:46 pm
by Aegor
In post 2459, BBmolla wrote:Why would redirecting me onto myself do anything
"Himself" referred reflexively back to Thor. Maf did not target you unless Thor redirected you onto Thor (or some such).

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:22 pm
by Svenskt Stål
In post 2423, Metal Sonic wrote:Hi I am new here how do I play
In post 2424, Metal Sonic wrote:
vote rubicon


I assume that I am supposed to do this
its this progresion that rubs me wrong, like the first thing i think off when metal sonic says "i am supposed to do this" is that he is voting his scum pal.

because you have to have played newbie games before joining a game like this so the statement that you are "supposed to do" is actually what rubs me wrong, it implies that you act on behalf of others

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:40 am
by Svenskt Stål
In post 2400, Aegor wrote:Yay! My SCB deathwish came true!

VOTE: vezok, for the moment. Probably will change.
In post 2401, LeMidget wrote:Doop Boop.
VOTE: vezok
In post 2402, Rubicon wrote:Aegor, you think vezok's role could be fake/scum then? (important question)
VOTE: vezok
this is from yesterday and i think it should speak in favor for vezok

What needs to happen today or atleast in the begining is that we get pressure on lurkers to become active

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:04 am
by Svenskt Stål
Rubicons thoughts on vezok day 1

Spoiler:
In post 290, Rubicon wrote:
In post 241, Thor665 wrote:I don't have a good read on them either way at the moment, but feel that pressure on them and getting people to oppose or support the wagon will be useful to me in reading their alignment and also the alignment of others.

Now it's your turn, why do you think they're town?
I just do. Or did, anyway. Less sure now.
In post 285, sekai no ki wrote:
We don't like him or Rubicon so far. Rubicon's p much ignoring his wagon. You think vezok looks scummier?

Mastin started it for terrible reasons,
PV and vezok jumped on for equally bad reasons
, Z thinks one of my posts was a "scum claim" but I have no idea how, you think it was "stiff" and I have no idea how. Toogoloo jumped on without a reason but he's probably town.

I think mastin is scum,
vezok and PV are likely scum
. ActionDan saying DGB had more "relevant, direct" reads than she does as scum struck me as weird.

AP, Aegor, Thor look town.

Last sentence of looked town.

If you want to figure me out, maybe just ask me something?
Here he has mastin as scummiest followed by PV and vezok, I know this site prides itself in bussing eachother but do you put 2 scum in your top 3?
In post 295, Rubicon wrote:vezok is a good wagon
This statement with the lack of a vote speaks in favor of vezok imo

In post 611, Rubicon wrote:Right, I'm muddling my way through the pages I've missed, gonna trickle my thoughts into the thread while I work on putting them into words.

Vezok could be town.
I like his reactions to being wagoned and the fact that he says Sven is "a townie tunneling" and that "in his mind I am scum and he doesn't understand why people don't see that too." Considering the context of the Sven wagon, I think this is a reasonably town reaction to asking themselves, "Why is this person so wrong about me?" Especially from vezok, I just don't see this exchange happening with scum-vezok.

I don't actually agree that Sven looks like town tunnelling, though. To me, the "case" feels like a poor attempt at fake scumhunting the easiest counterwagon to himself. His "I AM NOT FUCKING SCUM" post is all right but isn't very convincing to me. My experience is that town frustration should either seeth out of a person or explode in a sudden, violent burst of impotent fury that makes everyone stop and say, "Whoa." ALL CAPS, YELLING, swearing, etc. are tools scum use to pretend they're upset without actually having to do anything except push the cap locks button on their keyboard. (This is mostly in response to people who said he seemed genuinely frustrated, like Thor.)
Vezok "
could be town
"... i think this is just leaving a door open.
In post 1607, Rubicon wrote:
In post 1602, vezokpiraka wrote:I'll claim to stop this bullshit wagon on me.
I'm the female boomer. Instead of sending 3 people to the list I can send only one. There may be more people that have my role.
What makes you think more people have the role?

(Holding off on commentary for now, but I can think of at least one good reason to believe this claim.)
Not much of an interaction but whatever, this actually reads abit like rubi is helping vezok.
In post 2012, Rubicon wrote:
Overall reads, AP, PV, vezok, Bulbazak, Aegor and Pidgey are the town core from my POV.


Mastin is scum. I'm Occam's razoring that one. If a player posts like Mastin posts, they're probably just scum, the end.

Majiffy is probably scum too, want to see how he responds to my question above though.

AtE aside, can see the scum case on sekai. They are not a bad lynch for today. Probably not on a team with mastin though. Them being mastin's top scum read is... something.

I read BBmolla as pretty damn scummy, and would like to know what people think is town about him. Same for Zdenek, whose posting is a LITTLE better lately but still not doing much for me.

dopog might be scum.

DGB hasn't said anything that could be used to read her right now AFAICT. (Can be used later, but not now.) I think she's playing the way she always does.

Gut says Thor is town. I realized a week or two ago he reminded me of someone I play mafia with on another site to a ridiculous level, but that things which are town for that person may not be town for Thor. If that makes sense. So I'm less confident about Thor-town now just because I think he could probably fake a lot of what looked town to me as scum.
(Also, I couldn't help but notice how terrible his selections for the horde kill were. >_>)
lol, so for some reason vezok is now town core, i guess the claim is what has changed.

And he busses mastin hard.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:54 am
by Metal Sonic
In post 2463, Svenskt Stål wrote: because you have to have played newbie games before joining a game like this
dense

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:01 am
by Svenskt Stål
i see you have played tons of games, so you are just a troll then

can you comment on the other parts of my post?

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:54 am
by Metal Sonic
when i said that i was new here

i meant that i was new to this game

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:55 am
by Metal Sonic
when i said new to this game

i meant "Left 4 Dead Mafia (Day 4)"

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:43 am
by pidgey
Maybe fail to ask, but what does the herder ability do?

Also thor is such a weird kill lol

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:43 am
by pidgey
Sven you are fkn ridiculous, remind me again why you have me in that part of the list?

Its sad that you are town this game goddamit.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:51 am
by pidgey
Crazy theory, but maybe we targeted scum BP.

Like, not even maybe. Probably a very real scenario.

I think claiming who we horde targeted is smart.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:54 am
by ActionDan
targeted Toog Ageor and Thor for horde kills. Really just wanted Thor dead. guess I got my wish

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:13 am
by sekai no ki
In post 2443, Svenskt Stål wrote:This is where i am at

[0] BBMolla:
[0] Majiffy:
[0] LeMidget:
[0] Zdenek:
[0] Sekai No Ki:

[0] GuyInFreezer:
[0] Aegor:
[0] Metal Sonic:
[0] ActionDan:
[0] PeregrineV:

[0] Vezokpiraka:
[0] Pidgey:
[0] Alpazard:


VOTE: alp
I thought you were suspicious of me yesterday.