In post 2439, Hopkirk wrote:Summary: Feels like he’s not actually looking to solve the game and feels kind of self-contradictory. Not engaging deeply. Not following up on stuff. Unclear reads/doesn’t really feel like he’s trying to solve. Feels especially inconsistent in regard to lurkers.
Doesn’t help that his main five pushes are the three dead townies, the IC, and a push on FL that doesn’t fit how KK interacts with other non-contributors. Also doesn’t help he ignores/defends Android/Wave (who I scumread) while pushing every other wagon that happened yesterday.
Note- decided to go through this fully and see what results I got since I noticed earlier he doesn't mention Android, defends Wave, attacks Ousuka/Performer/Ausuka.
Huh. That looks really damning.
It'd be really town if you put a vote at the end of it. Instead the vote came a few days before. So it's not your case. It's a great example in confirmation bias. You went looking for "evidence" to justify your vote and you've found it.
You've the game repeatedly posting your full reads on everyone and you're scum-reading someone who plays differently than you. I don't play the field. I focus on a few people at a time. If I get a town-sense of someone, I drop the issue. If it's an issue I press on it.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:57 am
by Flavor Leaf
Why is that bad to have the vote come before?
I think it’s townie to just explain it afterwards because he felt it, and then explained it to himself even more.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:57 am
by Flavor Leaf
Sometimes I can’t put my readsninto words until a little later down the line.
I think it’s townie to just explain it afterwards because he felt it, and then explained it to himself even more.
Because I've done that. As both town and scum. Hell, I hit "iso" name to your name and read a lot of stuff you posted with the "he's scum" filter and boom. You're super scummy. You're dripping with scum-intentions.
Well, I’m actually a rather chill dude, despite what it may seem on here. I’m just sarcastic/sassy, and through text it comes across like a dick. I have a mixture of self deprecating humor alongside my false bravado. Don’t get me wrong, I got that confidence, but I’m also very forgiving, and never want to actively make anyone upset. I feel bad killing off the people I’m closer to in Mafia even if I think they’re scum/threat to me when i’m Scum.
I do smoke a decent amount of weed, but like, only socially, but a lot of my close friends are everyday people, so I’m generally with them.
I’m an actor, theatre, getting a decent amount of film crew work, paying the bills :shrug: I’m an introverted extrovert. Yeah.
How do you feel now? Decent person
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:41 pm
by Ircher
Prodding EspeciallyTheLies (3d 9h) and Scioness Sajj (3d 12h). They have (expired on 2018-07-09 20:41:32) to respond in-thread.
Edit: Well, technically, EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA indefinitely.... but I think that is long past over anyway, so........
In post 2439, Hopkirk wrote:Summary: Feels like he’s not actually looking to solve the game and feels kind of self-contradictory. Not engaging deeply. Not following up on stuff. Unclear reads/doesn’t really feel like he’s trying to solve. Feels especially inconsistent in regard to lurkers.
Doesn’t help that his main five pushes are the three dead townies, the IC, and a push on FL that doesn’t fit how KK interacts with other non-contributors. Also doesn’t help he ignores/defends Android/Wave (who I scumread) while pushing every other wagon that happened yesterday.
Note- decided to go through this fully and see what results I got since I noticed earlier he doesn't mention Android, defends Wave, attacks Ousuka/Performer/Ausuka.
Huh. That looks really damning.
It'd be really town if you put a vote at the end of it. Instead the vote came a few days before. So it's not your case. It's a great example in confirmation bias. You went looking for "evidence" to justify your vote and you've found it.
You've the game repeatedly posting your full reads on everyone and you're scum-reading someone who plays differently than you. I don't play the field. I focus on a few people at a time. If I get a town-sense of someone, I drop the issue. If it's an issue I press on it.
When I put the vote down, I'd looked at how you interacted with Android, Wave, Ausuka, Performer, Flavour (though less here), Ousuka, Almost50, and a couple of lurkers. That's the main part of the case and was enough for me to move you to scum. The rest I looked at to see if I got a similar sense of things.
This, if confirmation biased, is going to be equally confirm.biased whether I do it right after reading the first set of interactions, or a few days later. So timing shouldn't matter here.
Of course whether it was put together before or after I voted doesn't change whether the content is valid or not.
Interested in some kind of reads list, especially your thoughts on Wave, thoughts on lurkers and why flavour differs.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:06 am
by JarJarDrinks
VLA is over. Will be doing catchup throughout the day and I plan to refute every terrible reason people have given for throwing a vote on me.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:05 am
by Vaxkiller
VOTE: myloninja
I don't get the jarjar votes anymore, if anyone has some logic ill be glad to hear it but I like jar jar today.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:17 am
by JarJarDrinks
In post 2365, Golden Robster wrote:scum had multiple potential NK targets such as ausuka (conf town), wavemode (neighbour + possible PR) and vax (claimed vig and implied shooting me or wavemode)
why would they avoid all of this in favor of killing a50?
when did wavemode become possible PR? Wavemode was a wagon on day 1. Seems weird to suggest he'd be a possible scum NK.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:33 am
by Lalendra
Mylo slipped down to scumlean on my list with that vote on PP. I don't see any reason for it at all, and it seemed like he was opportunistically picking on someone that he knew was not around when he was pressured to throw down a vote.