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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:59 am
by RadiantCowbells
it's mostly the latter two things, I don't really have a strong view of what xyzzy would or would not do mod wise. but lavender play makes a ton of sense as scum with that role and no sense at all as town with that role.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:59 am
by Jingle
In post 2447, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:You think Mastina’s scum? If so, I officially give up on ever trying to read her.
No, she's probtown by claim. I honestly haven't tried to read her because she's not trying to read me so it's impossible for me to have any certainty.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:59 am
by Jingle
scum lav soft implies town nom.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:00 am
by RadiantCowbells
like come on. "my role automatically wins the game if two people post" when everyone's discussing getting people to post. she would have claimed.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:00 am
by nomnomnom
In post 2450, RadiantCowbells wrote:it's mostly the latter two things, I don't really have a strong view of what xyzzy would or would not do mod wise. but lavender play makes a ton of sense as scum with that role and no sense at all as town with that role.
I think I was in the same mindset as you and I drew similar conclusions given the way she acted but... there's something townie in the way they reacted to my vote.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:01 am
by Jingle
In post 2453, RadiantCowbells wrote:like come on. "my role automatically wins the game if two people post" when everyone's discussing getting people to post. she would have claimed.
Agreed, it is sketchy AF.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:02 am
by nomnomnom
Like I agree that Lavender's play makes no sense, and in a vacuum this play is just really bad, self-centered, not proactive, and the play with this role is extremely bad.

All I have to defend this is a tonal read on that last post that was given to me.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:05 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2070, Lavender wrote:
In post 2069, rosterfoster wrote:I don’t give in depth reasons for these things.

Like I fundamentally disagree with the view that it is possible to give a huge case on someone. I gave reasons for some of my thoughts earlier.

Mastina is town because (contrary to what people think) she struggles to fake anger and she has anger here.
Alright, in your last answer you said you find motivation for town/scum, may you quote some of my posts and tell me what motivation you see there?
I think this is town.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:05 am
by RadiantCowbells
i don't.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:06 am
by Titus
In post 2453, RadiantCowbells wrote:like come on. "my role automatically wins the game if two people post" when everyone's discussing getting people to post. she would have claimed.
It is...

But there's so much sketchy in this thread?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:07 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2456, nomnomnom wrote:Like I agree that Lavender's play makes no sense, and in a vacuum this play is just really bad, self-centered, not proactive, and the play with this role is extremely bad.

All I have to defend this is a tonal read on that last post that was given to me.
Nom and Lavender are both town. Feel really confident about this.

Probably can’t read Mastina so eh?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:07 am
by RadiantCowbells
if we're not lynching lavender tomorrow after ELA at the latest i'm just not playing this one.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:08 am
by Jingle
mod meta on xyzzy: provided fakeclaims?
claims via town +additional scum utility?
claims via towny scumroles and scummy townroles?
None of the above?
Some mix?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:08 am
by RadiantCowbells
ND lavender is literally outed scum
I don't understand how you can not see that

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:08 am
by Jingle
In post 2461, RadiantCowbells wrote:if we're not lynching lavender tomorrow after ELA at the latest i'm just not playing this one.
I'm not ready to chain just yet, but as of rn this doesn't seem unlikely.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:08 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2458, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't.
I read her as lhf mislynchbait. She doesn’t sound scummy to me.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:09 am
by Jingle
In post 2465, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2458, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't.
I read her as lhf mislynchbait. She doesn’t sound scummy to me.
She doesn't sound towny either. She's just kind of there.

Also, EVA/Lav had some weird interactions today.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:09 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2463, RadiantCowbells wrote:ND lavender is literally outed scum
I don't understand how you can not see that
How is she outed and why are nom and Jingle disagreeing with you?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:10 am
by RadiantCowbells
nom and jingle are disagreeing with me because nom is nom and jingle is jingle.

jingle also disagreed with me on fumuki. and basically all my right reads in GIF's game last year.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:10 am
by nomnomnom
@RC do you think newbie scum can pull off this kind of extremely town-sounding post? Because frankly I can't.
In post 2361, Lavender wrote:
In post 2357, nomnomnom wrote:What you said is also a big contradiction with your usual game. I looked at your literal first game when you had a bigger grasp on the game AS A VT. Now you claim you are "completely useless".

This is just a weird departure from what I've seen of you so far.

pedit: look at your first game on here and look at your posts in this game and you will see what I am talking about
I guess I'm really not putting that much effort here...in my first game I could read through everything without getting confused.
In this one I just get confused and unsure of what to ask, that I just react to things pointed at me. In the other game, there were other VT's, but in this one there are so many more active PR's that I just don't feel as I could make 'that' huge a difference. Not really a good excuse to not help fellow townies though...
I'll try not to be as self-centered here and next-time.
PE: Tbh, in my scumgame I was moving a lot and didn't have that much time to mull over the details. Which effected my performance a lot.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:10 am
by Dannflor
who is the scum team I have to town block them real quick

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:11 am
by RadiantCowbells
i'm not even going to talk about nom


I don't see that as townie, so yes?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:12 am
by RadiantCowbells
what exactly is supposed to be challenging for scum to fake about that post?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:12 am
by Dannflor
isn't that a scum post

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:12 am
by nomnomnom
RC, I'm going to settle this with you right now.

It's not because I was wrong in a vengeful turbo game that everything I say is wrong and that I am contrarian for the sake of contrarian.

I tend to think a lot and I appreciate people discussing with me because it settles my thoughts, otherwise I tend to be too scattered and that's most apparent in the last micro I just played where there was no one to do so.

So yeah, I'm just discussing with you.

How don't you see that as townie?