Hey Gobble. Do you know anything about NSG as far as play style?
She’s a very good Scumhunter. Won Paragon a year ago. She sandbags her scum play though. Very lurky
I guess I'm trying to understand her more. She has a few moments in this game I like but then just reads as doing nothing to promote anyone as far as pushing a player. This game is a bit harder with 2 groups but it doesn't mean you can't scum hunt through both sides.
I figure scum wouldn't want to bus with a game like this but it's hard to say with the amount of lurkers that have been around most of the game and then you have a few that are spamming this game like crazy. I found a few players that have added no value to the game when they do post, like baezu, mastina, jjt and then you have players like Elmo and NS that post very little and trying to find if there is anything you can gain from reading them.
As I said NM is more a gut read. I recall his scum games and he pretty much plays almost the same as town or scum. That's what makes him a dangerous player in general. I just have to use my gut with him as a general rule and see how it plays out.
I'll stick with this for now. He got my first ping and it hasn't changed as the game went on. VOTE: jjh
No, I don't, and I never have, and I never will, and I never would.
If this is from what RC posted earlier he was clearly joking.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:18 am
by Trojan Horses
In post 2387, Trojan Horses wrote:I just wanna build a wagon on LyLo Ren and see what happens.
Vecna seems to have a meta scumread on him he didn't explain yet but I'm happy to just sheep that.
NSG, do you agree on:
Vecna strongly town, WANH town, Baezu towny?
Do you think Sushi is strongly town?
NSG?
I'm OK if you're not gonna answer this rn too
In post 2387, Trojan Horses wrote:I just wanna build a wagon on LyLo Ren and see what happens.
Vecna seems to have a meta scumread on him he didn't explain yet but I'm happy to just sheep that.
NSG, do you agree on:
Vecna strongly town, WANH town, Baezu towny?
Do you think Sushi is strongly town?
NSG?
I'm OK if you're not gonna answer this rn too
No, I don't really agree with those, with the possible exception of townleaning wanh and mr ultimate detective.
In post 2464, northsidegal wrote:No, I don't really agree with those, with the possible exception of townleaning wanh and mr ultimate detective.
So do you have a somewhat decent solve for Halloween?
uh, not at the moment.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:32 am
by RadiantCowbells
What kind of probability are you looking at of you townreading me some time on D1
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:45 am
by northsidegal
if i knew that in the future i would townread you then i would already townread you, and the same holds true for any read on any person, right?
i don't really have an answer for you, and any numbers would just be made up.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:47 am
by RadiantCowbells
It is moreso a question of whether the answer is zero or nonzero
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:47 am
by northsidegal
it's nonzero, i think.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:54 am
by SirCakez
In post 2391, RadiantCowbells wrote:And town consensus right now is that WANH TH Vecna Baezu are all town with the possible exception of Baezu which well nah.
I don't think this is true? I don't have a TR on any of them, for example. I know I'm not the only one.
In post 144, BBmolla wrote:even though you're scum it's nice to play with you mastina
The pleasure is all mine since I'll be nightkilled ages before you due to not being scum and radiating an aura of threatening presence warranting my death. (Am I a N1 nightkill? No, almost assuredly not, but I just have a
feeling
that scum will kill me before the end of the game. I have a very specific reason for feeling that way, too, but I shouldn't voice that reason because it'd be anti-town to have done so, already have hinted at it but basically, is related to the setup. I think the setup specifically will incentivize scum to kill me before lylo hits.)
On that note, to get the ball rolling, updated readslist:
We are not helping
gobbledygook
BBMolla
jjh
SirCakez
DrDolittle
In post 2382, SirCakez wrote:I would like to wagon Baezu or Vecna. I still think Vecna is being really survivalistic and not progressing the game in a town fashion.
If I was being survivalistic, I wouldve put your ass on L1. Or I wouldve taken a strance against the easy lynches like PH or Baezu
Instead im doing a genuine attempt to read your shit and all slots in this game. Stop this nonsense
What I really want is to rally halloween to start focussing on Schuichi, Ren Lui and potentially RC.
The fact your refusing to see this is just worrysome.
Both slots you want to focus on here are town.
In post 2433, Vecna wrote:Actually, cakez calling me survivalistic after picking a big fight with RC is the biggest bullshit comment in this entire game and shows he's either not reading or he's just making up shit
I will give you this. I think survivalistic was the wrong word. I was referring to the "unvote me" stuff you've been saying.
In post 2445, farside wrote:I will have the saddest face in the world if Baezu is town. One line nonsense post........it's cringe worthy from the player I once knew.
That hurts
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:11 am
by Baezu
In post 2456, jjh927 wrote:I'm gonna do a full reread later tonight but don't have time for more than the odd post rn
Lynch this with fire!!!!!
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:23 am
by mastina
In post 1984, Trojan Horses wrote:Why do you expect instant analysis from her? Now that you know it's a doctored VC, it's fact that she knew it was wrong. What now, Mastina?
Now I admit that I was wrong and that she did in fact know it was wrong.
Beyond that--if you're expecting a magical 180 on my nsg read from scum to town? You're a moron.
NSG knew she was fake-hammering.
Fake-hammering is not inherently a town action.
You have to look at the mindset behind the fake hammer.
As scum, the mindset behind a fake hammer is to earn some quick cheap instant towncred; get people to townread you who weren't before, and increase the strength of existing townreads on your slot--sounds like a pretty good deal, doesn't it?
As town, the mindset behind a fake hammer is, explicitly, to gather information, analyze this information, and garner conclusions from it on multiple slots--and yet, nsg has yet to show she is doing this, she's yet to show this is what she was aiming for, she's yet to actually go through with anything regarding it.
NSG pulled off the fake hammer, and did nothing with it.
If someone pulls off a fake hammer and does nothing which it, which mindset does that more closely resemble? The town one of using it for information, or the scum one of using it for cheap towncred? The answer seems apparent enough.
That having been said. VOTE: Wonderwall.
I will acknowledge that regardless of whether my read here is right on this being scum nsg, we're not getting an actual lynch on her today due to people insisting "but it must've been from a town nsg!!!".
