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Grumpy mod roused from sleep here.

Cut the personal attacks. First and only warning.

Please reference general rules one and two from the OP.

Probably not my dude. Everyone is a big word.

In post 2447, Servant Berserker wrote:I'm gonna ask you a point mother fucking blank question.

Are you a fucking Rolecop.

Nope. But this tells me what you think I did. And why you're wrong in your assumption.

I'll clarify something just because you were nice enough to reveal this: I get a copy of something IF that person is something, and I used my role offensively (on a scum read) in an attempt to catch that something. If this doesn't tell you what you need to know, then *shrug*

You still need to claim because that description still could trigger a false positive.

You have more than one role right?

One of those could have triggered it too, ftr.

at the risk of being revealing, i suspect that everybody has more than one role

In post 2455, Servant Caster wrote:at the risk of being revealing, i suspect that everybody has more than one role

Yeah so let me say this.

If I targetted myself with my role, I think I would get a false positive.

i don't think berserker is scum anymore

not that they couldn't be still but i found this experience fairly impressive

Actually there's probably no harm in revealing this: one of my abilities is I get a copy of the investigative results of whoever I target (if they're an investigative role). And I'm using it offensively in an attempt to catch a scum investigative since I'm guessing one still exists.

Actually, I started thinking you have a similar role to me, which was why it was so amusing.

In post 2457, Servant Caster wrote:i don't think berserker is scum anymore

not that they couldn't be still but i found this experience fairly impressive

Cool.

I'm going to bed.
Please don't burn down the house while I'm gone.
I'm already on fire.

Oh, I guess it should be obvious from the way I phrased that, but my target did not receive any investigative results last night. And I know that I wasn't roleblocked because I would have received something slightly different if I were. (Whether or not my target was roleblocked, I don't know.)

In post 2338, Servant Caster wrote:don't sign up for mafia games if you are going to be like this

"I don't really want to suffer another day of this though."

- Caster, 4 RL days ago

In post 2338, Servant Caster wrote:don't sign up for mafia games if you are going to be like this

"No one ever finds me persuasive; that is why I don't bother."

- Caster, 4 RL days ago

I was just going back through ISOs and felt like being petty because I had a chuckle when I got there. You can ignore that if you want.

Increasingly think Berserker/Moon are both likely to be town and this whole thing is a big distraction.

The more I reviews Casters play as well the more I begin to think they just don't make sense as scum. The openly grousing about not being able to send me a message, the asking about using his night actions, the way he's reacting bitterly to moon cancer rather than using them as a push target to get attention off himself...I just don't see it anymore.

So with that in mind I turn my eye to those who were off the shielder wagon but on Caster and I find myself liking not Lancer but Saber the least. Despite voicing disagreement with Berserker's Caster scumread in 1576 without ever truly explaining why they start hypothesizing about potential partners in 1863. In 1952 they then start looking for an excuse to vote there saying "A caster scumflip would lead to so many associations" and votes there for "yucky AtE" in 2121 while saying "there are multiple people defending caster" as though caster's perception no one is defending them is somehow supposed to be scummy. Looks more like a scummy attempt to pile on a wagon than a believable progression to a scumread. Think of all the off-wagon voters this is most likely to be scum, Lancer has had a few lines that seem at least plausibly town to me that I can go into, while I don't get the same impression from Saber. The slot's original occupant had a few moments that I liked but beyond that there just hasn't been much and they've very much been sideline posting today which continues to give me bad feelings. They also somewhat conspicuously avoided taking a meaningful stance on Shielder yesterday, only saying they were "a bad place to lynch for now" in 1550 and vaguely attacking people on the wagon, saying Beasts vote is "incredibly bad" in 1865 (not sure I necessarily agree, Beast being willing to sheep a townread in Berserker isn't a bad thing to do as town although it's possible for scum to sheep as well. Just don't see their play with regard to that vote as particularly alignment indicative). But beyond that they avoided any real meaningful attempt at commenting on shielder's alignment and I very much don't like that. Posts today seem eager to put both Lancer or Moon over the edge without much debate as well.


As said earlier I was likely giving Ruler too much credit for simply having strange reasoning and I'm not sure I should believe their unexplained vote hopping during the master phase was meant as a reaction test given the explanation in 1324 was all after the fact and they theorize about "coordination" in getting me selected but don't really draw any conclusion. Reads in 1683 are really vague and noncommittal as well, they seem unwilling to actually point the finger at anyone. Read is weaker here though just owing to lack of content and I could technically see this as town but we'll have to see what the replacement brings to the table.

Somewhat concerned that I'm mostly suspicious of the less active posters here but am townreading a fair amount of people which means they could well be scum via PoE. Going to review everyone today to be sure though.

In post 2465, Servant Assassin wrote:Increasingly think Berserker/Moon are both likely to be town and this whole thing is a big distraction.

The more I reviews Casters play as well the more I begin to think they just don't make sense as scum. The openly grousing about not being able to send me a message, the asking about using his night actions, the way he's reacting bitterly to moon cancer rather than using them as a push target to get attention off himself...I just don't see it anymore.

So with that in mind I turn my eye to those who were off the shielder wagon but on Caster and I find myself liking not Lancer but Saber the least. Despite voicing disagreement with Berserker's Caster scumread in 1576 without ever truly explaining why they start hypothesizing about potential partners in 1863. In 1952 they then start looking for an excuse to vote there saying "A caster scumflip would lead to so many associations" and votes there for "yucky AtE" in 2121 while saying "there are multiple people defending caster" as though caster's perception no one is defending them is somehow supposed to be scummy. Looks more like a scummy attempt to pile on a wagon than a believable progression to a scumread. Think of all the off-wagon voters this is most likely to be scum, Lancer has had a few lines that seem at least plausibly town to me that I can go into, while I don't get the same impression from Saber. The slot's original occupant had a few moments that I liked but beyond that there just hasn't been much and they've very much been sideline posting today which continues to give me bad feelings. They also somewhat conspicuously avoided taking a meaningful stance on Shielder yesterday, only saying they were "a bad place to lynch for now" in 1550 and vaguely attacking people on the wagon, saying Beasts vote is "incredibly bad" in 1865 (not sure I necessarily agree, Beast being willing to sheep a townread in Berserker isn't a bad thing to do as town although it's possible for scum to sheep as well. Just don't see their play with regard to that vote as particularly alignment indicative). But beyond that they avoided any real meaningful attempt at commenting on shielder's alignment and I very much don't like that. Posts today seem eager to put both Lancer or Moon over the edge without much debate as well.


As said earlier I was likely giving Ruler too much credit for simply having strange reasoning and I'm not sure I should believe their unexplained vote hopping during the master phase was meant as a reaction test given the explanation in 1324 was all after the fact and they theorize about "coordination" in getting me selected but don't really draw any conclusion. Reads in 1683 are really vague and noncommittal as well, they seem unwilling to actually point the finger at anyone. Read is weaker here though just owing to lack of content and I could technically see this as town but we'll have to see what the replacement brings to the table.

Somewhat concerned that I'm mostly suspicious of the less active posters here but am townreading a fair amount of people which means they could well be scum via PoE. Going to review everyone today to be sure though.

Morning.
Correct on caster.
I dunno on the 1v1 being both town. But I think it somewhat likelier than I usually would.

I guess my main concern with berserker is still that I'm not sure I agree with any of her scumreads now and there wasn't any interaction with archer that made me view them as unaligned. But still I find it hard to believe she comes crashing into the day making this play as scum because I don't see the benefit to it. Still don't really see Moon choosing to play this way as scum.

Do you have reads right now, Avenger?

Berserker,

What are your current thoughts on Beast?

In post 2463, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:

In post 2338, Servant Caster wrote:don't sign up for mafia games if you are going to be like this

"No one ever finds me persuasive; that is why I don't bother."

- Caster, 4 RL days ago

This is bait and I am not taking it.

I don't want to just keep following assassin around like a puppy, but it is hard not to agree with them when they're out here putting in effort.

In post 2467, Servant Assassin wrote:I guess my main concern with berserker is still that I'm not sure I agree with any of her scumreads now and there wasn't any interaction with archer that made me view them as unaligned. But still I find it hard to believe she comes crashing into the day making this play as scum because I don't see the benefit to it. Still don't really see Moon choosing to play this way as scum.

Do you have reads right now, Avenger?

Caster town.
Berserker town.
me and you town.
Rider town.
Foreigner mayyyybbeeee probably still town.

After that it gets pretty murky.

In post 2470, Servant Caster wrote:I don't want to just keep following assassin around like a puppy, but it is hard not to agree with them when they're out here putting in effort.

Don't need to follow me around necessarily, just keep doing your thing and I'll see if I can meet you. Do you still scumread Lancer more strongly than Saber? If so, why? Why do you townread Rider?

Those are good questions and I should probably do some reading instead of answering them from the hip.

Felt like among other thins Foreigner V1's emotionality seemed real and their concern about not being able to beat Berserker in a 1v1 felt more like a thing a townie would voice.