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Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:30 pm
by yessiree
I think if this version is used, it has some big implications. Ofc this is still assuming there is redirector in play and they swapped flow with someone else.

So ND targetted flow, but he was actually watching the swapped target, thinking he was watching flow. Koba visited the swapped target instead of flow. Flow still died to NK since that cannot be redirected.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:32 pm
by DkKoba
yeah i think redirector could have been on andante here

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:32 pm
by DkKoba
We have 2 mls assuming town me were to get flipped right?

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:34 pm
by DkKoba
Andante just finished a recent game where they misread me btw so them just blatantly just pretending like im confirmed scum and refusing to entertain town me and also peacing out for the most part on top of the mathblade shade is also nagl.

Everyone else is towny

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:35 pm
by DkKoba
I think game is solved? At least fmpov

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:36 pm
by DkKoba
Id like to have ndmath respond to my points (idc if you're confirmed scum from my pov the more i force u to interact the more u have to dance for us and provide spew :3)

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:37 pm
by DkKoba
also robert + andante too.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:38 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2450, yessiree wrote:I think if this version is used, it has some big implications. Ofc this is still assuming there is redirector in play and they swapped flow with someone else.

So ND targetted flow, but he was actually watching the swapped target, thinking he was watching flow. Koba visited the swapped target instead of flow. Flow still died to NK since that cannot be redirected.
This is indeed possible but in the grand scheme of things doesn’t matter for today.

We know at least one of Koba/ND has to be scum. Because Koba claimed VT and cannot visit.

This means ND cannot see Koba visit anyone.

Therefore the one v one still exists. It would just mean that ND would be watching someone other than the kill. Which would be possible if Koba was the redirector as they would have to visit flow.

Koba + A possible

I think we really need a flip here then look tomorrow.

Great call out yes.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:42 pm
by DkKoba
I mean whats hilarious is the same theorized partners for me also work for ndmath so scum team just fucked in general bc town is all spewed town from a50 and ndmath :lol:

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:51 pm
by yessiree
In post 2457, MathBlade wrote:We know at least one of Koba/ND has to be scum. Because Koba claimed VT and cannot visit.
Ah ok. I was missing this piece of info. I'm good with a Koba lim then.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:53 pm
by Save The Dragons
i'm just waiting to give flea a chance to post before i do anything else

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:54 pm
by DkKoba
In post 2459, yessiree wrote:
In post 2457, MathBlade wrote:We know at least one of Koba/ND has to be scum. Because Koba claimed VT and cannot visit.
Ah ok. I was missing this piece of info. I'm good with a Koba lim then.
I hard defended u from being scum pushed and onto a50 wtf

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:00 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2459, yessiree wrote:
In post 2457, MathBlade wrote:We know at least one of Koba/ND has to be scum. Because Koba claimed VT and cannot visit.
Ah ok. I was missing this piece of info. I'm good with a Koba lim then.
I am good with it but I think they flip town.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:03 pm
by yessiree
I haven't fully read up on yesterday yet lol. My impressions are very fragmented

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:04 pm
by DkKoba
i think everyone here should like say what their read on NDmath/me is without considering the claimed result as a reason, as it is just a 50/50. NDmath was an extremely likely elimination here today without their gambit here - so it should be a null point anyways.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:10 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2464, DkKoba wrote:i think everyone here should like say what their read on NDmath/me is without considering the claimed result as a reason, as it is just a 50/50. NDmath was an extremely likely elimination here today without their gambit here - so it should be a null point anyways.
Both possibly scum.
You pinged me early and so did ND and so did A50.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:11 pm
by MathBlade
I still haven’t ruled out you gambiting as a possibility with ND

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:12 pm
by yessiree
I had ndmath as a townlean just from their posting/tone in general. I'll go back and read what I missed yesterday, but from a brief look at VCs I think I'm more inclined to vote with blade + koba here.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:15 pm
by DkKoba
In post 2466, MathBlade wrote:I still haven’t ruled out you gambiting as a possibility with ND
i think u should trust that i would never try such a stupid gambit since then i have to explain why i havent died for 2 nights straight. when im scum i hate to be in the "should be nightkilled" zone.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:15 pm
by MathBlade
I think it’s not such a big deal today if we miselim Koba. They’re just a VT at worst and then we get ND tomorrow.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:16 pm
by DkKoba
it probably realistically doesn't change anything but i dont think ndmath having a higher weight here based on a claim should be a thing LOL

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:17 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2468, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2466, MathBlade wrote:I still haven’t ruled out you gambiting as a possibility with ND
i think u should trust that i would never try such a stupid gambit since then i have to explain why i havent died for 2 nights straight. when im scum i hate to be in the "should be nightkilled" zone.
Sorry taking your word for stuff like that is hard.

You’re a good scum player for a reason.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:17 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2470, DkKoba wrote:it probably realistically doesn't change anything but i dont think ndmath having a higher weight here based on a claim should be a thing LOL
It doesn’t actually.

It’s more the old adage of elim the guilty before the cop phrase.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:18 pm
by DkKoba
i mean i cant fake my flip regardless so its not like im worried abt it but i think that its not a theory worth wasting brain power for u over since i think u are town here esp since u are willing to go against the grain and push ndmath over me

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:19 pm
by DkKoba
In post 2472, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2470, DkKoba wrote:it probably realistically doesn't change anything but i dont think ndmath having a higher weight here based on a claim should be a thing LOL
It doesn’t actually.

It’s more the old adage of elim the guilty before the cop phrase.
i think the cop here breaks into the old exception of a pr claim that is obviously scum motivated but i guess im just biased :lol: