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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:06 am
by jjh927
I want to make it clear that my second scumread is Cyrus, not House

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:07 am
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 2422, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Just don't rush this day.
+1

Why do we even have stumps when they aren’t being listened to?

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:10 am
by jjh927
Who's ignoring them?

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:12 am
by cyrus62
In post 2450, jjh927 wrote:I want to make it clear that my second scumread is Cyrus, not House
go on tell me why im scum. if titus flips town im inclined to say jjh is scum lol.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:17 am
by Moongrass
Hydra/Titus are my scumreads assuming NM is legit. Next in line would be house.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:19 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2450, jjh927 wrote:I want to make it clear that my second scumread is Cyrus, not House
While they have a lot of enthusiasm and some bad pushes i don’t see why they wouldn’t come from town.
Where is the scum motivation?

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:20 am
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 2452, jjh927 wrote:Who's ignoring them?
Norwee didn’t want to rush the day.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:20 am
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 2454, Moongrass wrote:Hydra/Titus are my scumreads assuming NM is legit. Next in line would be house.
VOTE: moon

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:21 am
by jjh927
I've gone into detail on why you're scum a couple of times, but for the sake of throwing in some new reasons for when I summarise everything in a single case later I'll give you some new stuff;
In post 1035, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1032, jjh927 wrote:I'm happy to join you there tbh

VOTE: NK15
I stated i see you as scum with Martina. So your just going to sheep thire vote like wtf

Particularly with the NK15 scumflip this looks like an attempt to discredit the push on NK15 right at the beginning as coming from scum


In post 1239, Jingle wrote:
Vote Count 1.05
jjh927 (4):
, , , ,
Not Known 15 (3):
, , ,
Free Money Free Tea (2):
, ,
Moongrass (2):
, ,
cyrus62 (1):
,
mastina (1):
,
Mia and Maya Fey (0):

nomnomnom (0):

House (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Titus (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):


No Euphemization (0):


Not Voting (0):


With 13 alive, it takes
7
to euphemize and
7
to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.
This was the peak of the wagon on me, where I maintain that scum!Titus and scum!Cyrus were trying to build me as a wagon to prevent NK15 from getting run up, but this was as I recall the wagon's peak and so Cyrus moved off again when it was clear this was never gonna go anywhere




This all aside, you consistently talk about "giving me a shot" which I think is an attempt to get me to reflexively townread you because I've been the only player consistently pushing you. Your read on me is proportional to the amount of opposition you receive from me.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:21 am
by jjh927
In post 2456, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 2452, jjh927 wrote:Who's ignoring them?
Norwee didn’t want to rush the day.
I don't see the day being rushed

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:22 am
by NorwegianboyEE
From what i see a lot of their actions are impulsive and do not seem pre-meditated or in service of some agenda.
That is, they are using a lot of energy on things i don’t typically expect scum!Cyrus to waste their energy on.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:23 am
by Moongrass
NM when the time comes please check in {me, house, hydra} if possible.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:23 am
by Mia and Maya Fey
In post 2459, jjh927 wrote:
In post 2456, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 2452, jjh927 wrote:Who's ignoring them?
Norwee didn’t want to rush the day.
I don't see the day being rushed
We had 7 days left before deadline.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:25 am
by Not_Mafia
Assuming we Elim Titus, if she flips town, I'll check House
If she flips scum, I'll check Fey Hydra

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:25 am
by jjh927
In post 2455, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2450, jjh927 wrote:I want to make it clear that my second scumread is Cyrus, not House
While they have a lot of enthusiasm and some bad pushes i don’t see why they wouldn’t come from town.
Where is the scum motivation?
In day 1, Cyrus appears to have assumed that I was scum and worked backwards with making shit arguments in order to try and convince other people of this. He failed at it. However, the scum motivation there is to try to push a mislim on me, which would have seemed possible at the time based on the reads of certain slots, which later also served the purpose of moving the elim away from NK15 / discrediting those pushing the NK15 elim, in particular Mastina.

His read on me literally moves with the wind on whether or not I am pushing him. The scum motivation there is to try to disincentivize pushing him and make his way into my townreads, as I may well be the only player who has pushed Cyrus and has any intention of continuing to push Cyrus.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:26 am
by Moongrass
In post 2463, Not_Mafia wrote:Assuming we Elim Titus, if she flips town, I'll check House
If she flips scum, I'll check Fey Hydra
Mint.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:27 am
by cyrus62
In post 2458, jjh927 wrote:I've gone into detail on why you're scum a couple of times, but for the sake of throwing in some new reasons for when I summarise everything in a single case later I'll give you some new stuff;
In post 1035, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1032, jjh927 wrote:I'm happy to join you there tbh

VOTE: NK15
I stated i see you as scum with Martina. So your just going to sheep thire vote like wtf

Particularly with the NK15 scumflip this looks like an attempt to discredit the push on NK15 right at the beginning as coming from scum


In post 1239, Jingle wrote:
Vote Count 1.05
jjh927 (4):
, , , ,
Not Known 15 (3):
, , ,
Free Money Free Tea (2):
, ,
Moongrass (2):
, ,
cyrus62 (1):
,
mastina (1):
,
Mia and Maya Fey (0):

nomnomnom (0):

House (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

Titus (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):


No Euphemization (0):


Not Voting (0):


With 13 alive, it takes
7
to euphemize and
7
to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.
This was the peak of the wagon on me, where I maintain that scum!Titus and scum!Cyrus were trying to build me as a wagon to prevent NK15 from getting run up, but this was as I recall the wagon's peak and so Cyrus moved off again when it was clear this was never gonna go anywhere




This all aside, you consistently talk about "giving me a shot" which I think is an attempt to get me to reflexively townread you because I've been the only player consistently pushing you. Your read on me is proportional to the amount of opposition you receive from me.
this is fun give me more. look i said give you a shot as in trust your read on mastina . yes i think your scum still simple because i havent been proven wrong. however i told nm to check house tonight so if we get a clear on house then there isnt to many left. i was wrong about nk.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:27 am
by northsidegal
i'll be curious to see what the story was with the nom kill and today's no-kill

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:28 am
by jjh927
In post 2462, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 2459, jjh927 wrote:
In post 2456, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:
In post 2452, jjh927 wrote:Who's ignoring them?
Norwee didn’t want to rush the day.
I don't see the day being rushed
We had 7 days left before deadline.
Day 2 got rushed. This day isn't being rushed.


Day 2 didn't get rushed because people weren't listening to the stumps. It just got rushed- I would say partly because certain people weren't at all careful about what people were getting voted up to, and MAINLY because Not Mafia is a serial lolhammerer and while we accept this as a force of nature it is genuinely just unapologetic bad play

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:29 am
by jjh927
What are your reads like, NSG?

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:29 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 2463, Not_Mafia wrote:Assuming we Elim Titus, if she flips town, I'll check House
If she flips scum, I'll check Fey Hydra
NB: I am not necessarily looking for scum with my checks, but I do have the ability to confirm people as town

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:30 am
by cyrus62
In post 2464, jjh927 wrote:
In post 2455, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2450, jjh927 wrote:I want to make it clear that my second scumread is Cyrus, not House
While they have a lot of enthusiasm and some bad pushes i don’t see why they wouldn’t come from town.
Where is the scum motivation?
In day 1, Cyrus appears to have assumed that I was scum and worked backwards with making shit arguments in order to try and convince other people of this. He failed at it. However, the scum motivation there is to try to push a mislim on me, which would have seemed possible at the time based on the reads of certain slots, which later also served the purpose of moving the elim away from NK15 / discrediting those pushing the NK15 elim, in particular Mastina.

His read on me literally moves with the wind on whether or not I am pushing him. The scum motivation there is to try to disincentivize pushing him and make his way into my townreads, as I may well be the only player who has pushed Cyrus and has any intention of continuing to push Cyrus.
i like this we can play all day long . this is how i play till proven other wise. but do me a favor if i get flip and i prove im town give me a beer okay.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:31 am
by cyrus62
nm could you check me or jjh so the fighting stops? it doesn't help town.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:31 am
by northsidegal
In post 2469, jjh927 wrote:What are your reads like, NSG?
fine with titus today

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:32 am
by Moongrass
In post 2470, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 2463, Not_Mafia wrote:Assuming we Elim Titus, if she flips town, I'll check House
If she flips scum, I'll check Fey Hydra
NB: I am not necessarily looking for scum with my checks, but I do have the ability to confirm people as town
Oh, I know what you are :)