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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:55 pm
by T-Bone
What is I stylize it with two s's? Like this.

MISSlynch

huh? huh?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:56 pm
by Wisdom
yeah gj ns, spiting me will help you win team mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:57 pm
by T-Bone
Remember when you vote post game I pretty much cleared two slots and outted a third slot as scum. Not too bad if I do say so myself.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:58 pm
by GreyICE
Stop arguing with scum, Wisdom. It drags you down to their level and then you both look like shit. You're not going to convince them the mod gave them a red role PM, they know that.

Wait for other players.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:58 pm
by notscience
I mean, I was going to go for "handwave anyone who tries to reason with you on a read" but you already took that train of action so

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:59 pm
by T-Bone
Wait for other players so they can drown out the fact that Grey outted himself as scum. Got it.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:59 pm
by Wisdom
ns will you fucking realize your goal here should be lynching scum, not winning against wisdom in an argument?

I mean even if I fucking accept that everything Grey/LLD have done is null, can it possibly compare to how obvscum Tbone is?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:00 pm
by notscience
My goal here is lynching scum

And the way to reach my goal is to beat wisdom in an argument

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:00 pm
by T-Bone
You misspelled obvtown.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:01 pm
by Wisdom
So you're telling me that your petty reasons for LLD scum are greater than Tbone's constant scumclaims?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:02 pm
by T-Bone
Psh, I don't do obvscum. Sorry.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:03 pm
by notscience
The truth depends on where you stand.

Please highlight why all of my reasons are petty if you do so believe they are, and also why Tbone's posting is indicative of constant scumclaiming.

"IF YOU CANT SEE IT I CANT HELP YOU" is not an acceptable response.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:04 pm
by notscience
This is the part where you handwave me yet again because of a fucking null tell

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:06 pm
by Wisdom
If you had read the game you'd fucking know. I explained yesterday how Tbone was safeclaiming by saying he blocked me because he knew from Reck I had no night action. And now he fucking claims he blocked the most town player in the game.

Your reasons for LLD is you didn't like a few posts and that was all, can that fucking compare?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:07 pm
by T-Bone
I knew from Reck you had no action...what? What does Reck have to do with anything? Now you are just inventing things to fit your narrative...

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:09 pm
by notscience
LLD's entrance felt like scum testing teh waters FOR the apathetic play that you so quickly handwave the potential of after the replace out.

It didnt go over well early so she pretended to do things

When most of the game started getting lurky she knew she could get away with it and also had rl bugging her so she can do it easy

But you're right, reads based on someone's posting is totally petty compared to reads based on someone's claimed actions.

My mistake.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:13 pm
by Wisdom
Except it's not only the actions.. it's his whole game. It's his nonsensical claim. It's everything I've been saying.

And sure, that's one way to look at LLD. Why are you ruling out the possibility she just doesn't like playing town and decided to replace out? Like Who did?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:15 pm
by Wisdom
It's like, you can either believe LLD was saying the truth or not, yet you're choosing to completely rule out the possibility she was telling the truth.

Why? Do you have some meta or something?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:16 pm
by T-Bone
Who doesn't like playing mafia at all so his replace out was meaningless too. A player's activity has very little to nothing to do with alignment so I don't know why you and Shos continue to push those obviously wrong angles for the basis of any reads ever.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:16 pm
by Magua
notscience wrote:I'm being honest, ***hole.


Personal attacks are not acceptable.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:18 pm
by Wisdom
Who was completely hyped over playing scum and only decided to quit because he got town due to reroll.

Activity means completely nothing, I'm top poster as both town and scum. This was never the argument.

But sure, keep trying to discredit my arguments. I know you don't like it slots are being obvtowned.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:22 pm
by notscience
Wisdom, you are looking at this in a vacuum.

Answer the following questions-

Did LLD like this playerlist?

Did LLD have free time in her life?

Did LLD enjoy posting?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:23 pm
by Wisdom
No, yes if she accepted to play Team Mafia, no

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:26 pm
by T-Bone
My opinion of Who is very low to begin with so I prefer to think he replaced out because he isn't a good player. I'm not discrediting your argument, I'm just telling you that regardless of the conclusion, right or wrong, you have the wrong reasons for attempting to make those conclusions. Unfortunately I've all but confirmed you as town so your alignment isn't in question anyway. You are town not because of anything Who did, mollie did, Eddie did, or you did, you are town because I blocked you, a kill happened, and you have no active ability meaning barring a strongman or ninja the scumteam would have had you made the kill. Because without that you are playing a proscum game otherwise. You come to conclusions based on things that have very little to do with the game. Your read progression is non-existent at best and all over the place at worst. You can't see the obvious IN-GAME material that should help you develop reads, you only see irrelevant things. LLD replacing out is irrelevant. Who/mollie/Eddie replacing out is irrelevant. I am genuinely concerned that scum are gonna leave the likes of you and Shos alive because you are practically blind to the happens in this thread in favor of irrelevant meta tells. I know as scum I will leave a player using meta alive every day of the week because I know their reads will be almost completely wrong.

Obviously sniping at you is not going to help, so tell me what I can do to help you.

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:26 pm
by notscience
Re the second: what if she thought she had time then suddenly life hit her hard?

And do you think that, regardless of alignment, the answers to most of those questions is no, and she had the opportunity to bow out and let someone else deal with this game, she would take it?