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↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:That's a silly excuse to try to talk to me, Titus. How about: hey I think maybe I might be wrong let's talk because I'm having second thoughts on my shifty read of dapper.

But it's been a long time. years, apparently. Let me reread it again and I'll tell you in a bit.

That would be lying. My reads do not change without evidence.

~Titus

I'll go look at dapper again after I reread this game, but I'm still very not excited about lynching him. Especially after he flipped to scum reading me.

You never have second thoughts on your reads, Titus? That's scares me actually. And it scares me that people would sheep someone like that.

I have zero reason to care or believe you had a gambit going if you won't tell me what it was.

You want me to reconsider Dapper, give me a reason to.

I will readily admit I have an ego. But it is very usually backed up by me being right. Consider this game - there have been three flips, and I have been extremely clear on my reads on each, and they've all been right. I would not be egotistical this game if I had been wrong multiple times.

Where's a quickhammer when you need one?

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:You never have second thoughts on your reads, Titus? That's scares me actually. And it scares me that people would sheep someone like that.

If something occurs in thread to give me second thoughts, sure. That would be new evidence.

Facts, however, do not change.

~Titus

Sheeping in general scared me. I am very actively against what is often known as the popular opinion simply because of this fact. I admit, it is a flaw in my reading ability.

But give me a moment, Titus. I swear, I'm getting to it.

Everyone is wrong somewhere, tso.

↑ T S O wrote:I will readily admit I have an ego. But it is very usually backed up by me being right. Consider this game - there have been three flips, and I have been extremely clear on my reads on each, and they've all been right. I would not be egotistical this game if I had been wrong multiple times.

↑ T S O wrote:Where's a quickhammer when you need one?

I agree.

~Titus

Facts are only half useful because far too often they support at least two ideas. If you only use them to support one, odds are you will only be right half the time.

I will hammer dapper if he does not wish to fight this out.

EE we can debate scumhunting theory, or you can explain said gambit.

If dapper replies before hand, I am not going to buy you were gambiting.

And it's not my ego in the way, tso. It's paranoia. And the fact that you two push this so hard makes me even more paranoid.

What if spiffy was a vig kill?

Who was most likely to vig him?

Titus I don't give two craps what you buy. Buy whatever you want. I didn't post that post for my naughty list.

You claiming vig that shot spiffy? Otherwise, why ask?

Ok. I got it: it wasn't great. But I hardcore tunneled hanso which lead to excellent wagon analysis from moonlight, iirc. My problem was I got caught up in the tunneling and then got sick with confbias fever and maybe almost lost us the game.

Jaqen's not the Vig, EE.

Soo it actually didn't turn out too well. If moonlight hadn't been there we would have died fast, I think. Nachomamma saved us a bit too by calling it out d3.

↑ T S O wrote:Jaqen's not the Vig, EE.

Ok. You're right. His play would be craps if he was vig. Let me reread back when spiffy wagon started. If that seems genuine and I still find the hints of fear in his posts that I thought I saw when reading him in relation to Klingon, then I will wait for dapper. If I can't find it I'll drop the hammer. If you want I'll quote any posts that give me hésitation and we can discuss them.

You could actually compare flavor. In most of his games, Jason uses faction specific kill flavor. Killed is mafia. Pool of blood is SK.

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:You could actually compare flavor. In most of his games, Jason uses faction specific kill flavor. Killed is mafia. Pool of blood is SK.

I thought flavor was not supposed to reveal anything specific game wise?

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:You could actually compare flavor. In most of his games, Jason uses faction specific kill flavor. Killed is mafia. Pool of blood is SK.

I thought flavor was not supposed to reveal anything specific game wise?

That rule is for normal games, not themes.

Nope. Find another quickhammer. It's quite apparent, I think, that I'm in a game wayyy over my head with many many players far better than myself. So for now I stick with my town read on dapper. I'm not going to reconsider. I will lynch dapper if he requests it. Otherwise I'm going to stick with this.

Or lynch me. That's an option, too.

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Nope. Find another quickhammer. It's quite apparent, I think, that I'm in a game wayyy over my head with many many players far better than myself. So for now I stick with my town read on dapper. I'm not going to reconsider. I will lynch dapper if he requests it. Otherwise I'm going to stick with this.

You don't get better by not enumerating reasons.

If you're right, it gives you a shot at improving communication skills.
If wrong, you'll be able to tailor your game state picture easier (as we will tell you why).

If you're scum, waiting to be coached is excellent play...for town.

Town wants you talking; it gives us info regardless of your flip.

So why are you townreading dapper?

It's probably going to be Garmr who has to hammer. Do it for me, darling.