In post 993, MortFeld wrote:To expand on the fair vote comment - I agree that scum might play the way I am playing, inadvertently. Perhaps my reads list would help you believe I do have an idea of how the game is progressing?
I'm working with:
{
Creeps, Toto, Drone, LUV, TF
}
{Chaos, Naomi, Nero}
{
Road, TB
}
{
Wobbu, HS
}
Pedit: Yes... Road asking for a tl;dr was the reason I posted the reads list. You said that the Misa slot was AFK at the time I posted that, which is not true. I didn't say that asking for the list was my reason for SRing the Misa slot - those reasons were explained in the post.
Mort, can you explain why you had two scum so high up in your reads at this point?
You want me to explain what my thought process was at the time of post 993? I don't remember. I think I made that list with the assumption that HS was scum.
But they weren't null, they were town reads. So you can't remember why you town read either of them, even with the assumption that HS is scum?
In post 2461, ArcAngel9 wrote:You saying this may be the biggest joke of this decade. If you read my role pm you would know where I am coming from.
But this still doesn't clear Chaos yet. He could still be scum.
hey i may be wrong about my scum reads and i'll own up to that but you were proved wrong multiple times and even attempted to twist the wiki to match your viewpoint and then you just drop it?
Nope. You're still being what you were yesterday. I was going by my understanding from what I received in my role pm.there is nothing wrong about that.
It will be wrong If i continue to believe even after the legitimate confirmation from MOD about how Jail Keeper works in his game.
In post 993, MortFeld wrote:To expand on the fair vote comment - I agree that scum might play the way I am playing, inadvertently. Perhaps my reads list would help you believe I do have an idea of how the game is progressing?
I'm working with:
{
Creeps, Toto, Drone, LUV, TF
}
{Chaos, Naomi, Nero}
{
Road, TB
}
{
Wobbu, HS
}
Pedit: Yes... Road asking for a tl;dr was the reason I posted the reads list. You said that the Misa slot was AFK at the time I posted that, which is not true. I didn't say that asking for the list was my reason for SRing the Misa slot - those reasons were explained in the post.
Mort, can you explain why you had two scum so high up in your reads at this point?
You want me to explain what my thought process was at the time of post 993? I don't remember. I think I made that list with the assumption that HS was scum.
But they weren't null, they were town reads. So you can't remember why you town read either of them, even with the assumption that HS is scum?
Toto was helping with the HS push and did some of the legwork.
Drone I don't remember. A bit of confbias in the way of my eyes.
Meta. I could be wrong too but he isn't something we need to worry today.
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:21 am
by keyenpeydee
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:22 am
by MortFeld
Why are you worried about my reads in 993 Chaos? As far as I'm concerned I'm conftown at this point unless you think I was willing to help lead the lynch of the mafia Strongman.
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:25 am
by MortFeld
Why are you worried about my reads in 993 Chaos? As far as you're concerned I should be conftown at this point unless you think I was willing to help lead the lynch of the mafia Strongman.
EBWOP
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:25 am
by TwoFace
idk my gut says it's RK
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:25 am
by TwoFace
I don't think it is mort
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:26 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 2480, MortFeld wrote:Why are you worried about my reads in 993 Chaos? As far as I'm concerned I'm conftown at this point unless you think I was willing to help lead the lynch of the mafia Strongman.
I agree. We need to focus on how we are going to work things out tonight. Do you suggest that we should go MASS Claim today?
I still don't believe Chaos is 100% town. The fail kill by mafia is ideal doom for their team. It is an exceptional play if Chaos is baiting his scum mate to get town cred as confirmed cop. In my opinion, He is not confirmed to me yet.
I suggest mass claim, what your thoughts. ?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:27 am
by MortFeld
What would massclaim accomplish?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:27 am
by TwoFace
no mass claim on day 2
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:28 am
by ArcAngel9
GO MASS CLAIM TODAY. IT HELPS TO SPECULATE THE SETUP and nails down the options on scum hunting
I am still thinking that you may be throwing your scum mate under the bus because Toto's kill has failed last night. It is real good strategy to bait your mate so that you can almost get a confirm town cred.
I will jail you tonight and TF doesn't shoot anyone. If I live through the night, you're the last remaining scum or you're confirmed cop.
This is a bad plan;
Red can choose to no shoot. or purposely shoot them as the cop so the shot looks like it failed. Which means we just lose cop information and JK preventing and they'd get a free miss lynch.
Here is the run down of the facts;
• TF shot HS
• Chaos Copped Toto
• Arc Jailed Toto
• As there was no red kill. toto must of been on the red teams killer.
• Chaos called toto as red. if they was red they would had no reason to do this as the JK could of protected the kill so all they would of done was kill an ally.
• Given we know they was red and the kill didn't happen the JK is also confirmed green.
• Given the JK stopped toto!reds kill it also backwards confirmed Chaos.
No NK confirmeds Arc.
Calling the Red before Arc did confirms Chaos
The cop seeing toto as red confirms that toto is red and not the nk target.
Meta. I could be wrong too but he isn't something we need to worry today.
rather use the facts than meta. they are my lynch tomorrow.
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:30 am
by TwoFace
In post 2492, MortFeld wrote:I don't see why the massclaim has to be today. If it's a good idea, it is just as valuable tomorrow since we're lynching scum today.
In post 2492, MortFeld wrote:I don't see why the massclaim has to be today. If it's a good idea, it is just as valuable tomorrow since we're lynching scum today.
exactly
Personally? I don't see the point in holding back at this stage. we are down to the last red and most roles are in the open
1)
Toto try to kill Chaos last night but failed
Chaos targetted Toto and got scum result
2) Toto & Chaos are scum together
Chaos fake claimed on D1.
Toto kill on someone else was failed. they both know that I jailed Toto. Chaos decided to bait him to win town cred so that he will live till lylo without being suspected
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:34 am
by TwoFace
if there was going to be a cc, today is when it would happen.
I think everyone else has chimed in so if chaos is faking, the real PR would have CC'd by now.
the fact that nobody has cc'd leans toward chaos is legit and mass claim is a waste of time.
In post 2492, MortFeld wrote:I don't see why the massclaim has to be today. If it's a good idea, it is just as valuable tomorrow since we're lynching scum today.
exactly
Personally? I don't see the point in holding back at this stage. we are down to the last red and most roles are in the open
We hold back until tomorrow. Massclaim right now is just dumb if there are more PRs. We don't need that information today to secure a lynch - we already have confirmed scum. But scum could use role info to their advantage potentially. There's just literally no reason to massclaim today instead of tomorrow.
