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Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:08 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
But there's a correct EV play.

Why did I insta-vote Katsuki? Because I had a guilty.

Why did I play down the guilty? because I'm paranoid about interactive things fucking with my result.

Why did I reveal the guilty after all? because I felt that Katsuki's behaviour and Mulch's votes from day 1 implied they were scum.

So we lynch Katsuki.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:13 am
by Keychain
It's not a perfect guilty.

Options:
1. LLD redirected Katsuki's kill to Ginngie
2. LLD killed Ginngie
3. Someone other than the two of them killed Ginngie


LLD, why did you redirect to Ginngie? Seems an odd choice.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:14 am
by Katsuki
In post 2474, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2473, northsidegal wrote:Either way if we assume scum is confirmed to be in this group it means elli was wrong on a townread.

Which has precedent.
I'm so tempted to lynch this smarmy fucker instead and say ""fuck my guilty, scum probably let me live because it's trash that they can manipulate anyway".
We'll both look like clowns if scum left you alive and somehow killed correctly on your redirect target but if they managed to do that then they deserve to past us anyways.

But that's highly unlikely and we're not going with anything other than the two of us dying. :]

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:14 am
by Katsuki
In post 2476, Keychain wrote:It's not a perfect guilty.

Options:
1. LLD redirected Katsuki's kill to Ginngie
2. LLD killed Ginngie
3. Someone other than the two of them killed Ginngie


LLD, why did you redirect to Ginngie? Seems an odd choice.
Doesn't matter if it's a perfect guilty or not at this point.

She's scum for her play irregardless if the possibilities of role shenanigans going on.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:15 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2476, Keychain wrote:It's not a perfect guilty.

Options:
1. LLD redirected Katsuki's kill to Ginngie
2. LLD killed Ginngie
3. Someone other than the two of them killed Ginngie


LLD, why did you redirect to Ginngie? Seems an odd choice.
Literally, after I called her scum yesterday, I felt she would be the LAST PERSON scum would kill. My other thought was Aristophanes, but I felt that it was better to go with Ginngie, feels like a more "out there" kill.

I wanted to limit the chance of scum blocking me or fucking with my result and then killing the person I redirected to.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:16 am
by Katsuki
In post 2473, northsidegal wrote:Either way if we assume scum is confirmed to be in this group it means elli was wrong on a townread.

Which has precedent.
Elli's always wrong about at least one person so that's further credence as to why LLD's scum.

Then again, he's not infallible as town, I've gotten him mislynched as a Town Mason once in a game with full SDC present. :P

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:17 am
by Katsuki
I HOPE Y'ALL DONT GET SUCKERED BY LLD'S SWEET TONGUE

PART OF WHY I WANT HER DEAD TODAY IS BECAUSE I DONT TRUST THE REST OF YALL TO POWERLYNCH HER WITHOUT QUESTION AFTER MY TOWNFLIP

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:19 am
by Pine
Yayyyy busy activity on the last day of the game!

/fatalist

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:19 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2481, Katsuki wrote:I HOPE Y'ALL DONT GET SUCKERED BY LLD'S SWEET TONGUE

PART OF WHY I WANT HER DEAD TODAY IS BECAUSE I DONT TRUST THE REST OF YALL TO POWERLYNCH HER WITHOUT QUESTION AFTER MY TOWNFLIP
And I don't fucking trust them to lynch you tomorrow either.

Plus, I have words I want to say tomorrow. And they can only be said tomorrow.

so how about this

I am asking all townies
Tomorrow I will self vote and if I don't you will lynch me for lying in this post. I will have no way out and I will die tomorrow. But as townies, you WANT ME TO LIVE TONIGHT.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:22 am
by Pine
In post 2455, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2453, Keychain wrote:Can Pine not submit the NK, as a treestump?
My assumption was he could not, though if he could that would change things a lot. Since Pine absolutely has the balls to make that kill and attempt this play regardless of who his player is.
Awww, thanks!

...Wait, have you been spying on me in the shower?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:24 am
by Keychain
Katsuki wrote:I HOPE Y'ALL DONT GET SUCKERED BY LLD'S SWEET TONGUE

PART OF WHY I WANT HER DEAD TODAY IS BECAUSE I DONT TRUST THE REST OF YALL TO POWERLYNCH HER WITHOUT QUESTION AFTER MY TOWNFLIP
Whoa deja vu

In post 2478, Katsuki wrote:irregardless
You're a fan of this word :lol:


Out of the 1v1, I'd much prefer to lynch LLD.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:26 am
by Keychain
In post 2483, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I am asking all townies
Tomorrow I will self vote and if I don't you will lynch me for lying in this post. I will have no way out and I will die tomorrow. But as townies, you WANT ME TO LIVE TONIGHT.
Why do we want you to live tonight?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:26 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2485, Keychain wrote:
Katsuki wrote:I HOPE Y'ALL DONT GET SUCKERED BY LLD'S SWEET TONGUE

PART OF WHY I WANT HER DEAD TODAY IS BECAUSE I DONT TRUST THE REST OF YALL TO POWERLYNCH HER WITHOUT QUESTION AFTER MY TOWNFLIP
Whoa deja vu

In post 2478, Katsuki wrote:irregardless
You're a fan of this word :lol:


Out of the 1v1, I'd much prefer to lynch LLD.
I AM CLAIMING THAT I HAVE A ROLE RELATED REASON TO LIVE TO TOMORROW, WHERE I AM CLAIMING IF I TRY TO AVOID BEING LYNCHED, TOWN SHOULD LYNCH ME ON PRINCIPLE.

ANY TOWNIE WHO SAYS THEY WANT TO LYNCH ME BEFORE KATSUKI IS GAME THROWING.

THE SCUM CANNOT KILL ME TONIGHT, OR THEY ARE DOING YOU A FAVOUR BY GIVING YOU A NOT ME LYNCH TOMORROW.

SO YOU LYNCH THE GUILTY ON KATS, THEN TOMORROW, YOU LISTEN TO ME, ASSUMING WE DON'T WIN, AND THEN YOU LYNCH ME.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:27 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
There is no role in this game scum me could have that could end the game from letting me live tonight.

But there is a thing that town me could have that could change the game in our favour if we are wrong.

You lynch. Katsuki. First. Always.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:27 am
by BBmolla
How would this play work for scum LLD honestly

VOTE: Katsuki

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:29 am
by northsidegal
In post 2479, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2476, Keychain wrote:It's not a perfect guilty.

Options:
1. LLD redirected Katsuki's kill to Ginngie
2. LLD killed Ginngie
3. Someone other than the two of them killed Ginngie


LLD, why did you redirect to Ginngie? Seems an odd choice.
Literally, after I called her scum yesterday, I felt she would be the LAST PERSON scum would kill. My other thought was Aristophanes, but I felt that it was better to go with Ginngie, feels like a more "out there" kill.

I wanted to limit the chance of scum blocking me or fucking with my result and then killing the person I redirected to.
Why not redirect to someone you think is scum?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:30 am
by BBmolla
In post 2490, northsidegal wrote:
In post 2479, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2476, Keychain wrote:It's not a perfect guilty.

Options:
1. LLD redirected Katsuki's kill to Ginngie
2. LLD killed Ginngie
3. Someone other than the two of them killed Ginngie


LLD, why did you redirect to Ginngie? Seems an odd choice.
Literally, after I called her scum yesterday, I felt she would be the LAST PERSON scum would kill. My other thought was Aristophanes, but I felt that it was better to go with Ginngie, feels like a more "out there" kill.

I wanted to limit the chance of scum blocking me or fucking with my result and then killing the person I redirected to.
Why not redirect to someone you think is scum?
I would assume she redirected the player she thought is scum. And this couldn’t redirect the target to themselves.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:30 am
by northsidegal
And is there a problem with you outing whatever role related thing it is where you need to live to tomorrow?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:31 am
by northsidegal
In post 2491, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2490, northsidegal wrote:
In post 2479, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2476, Keychain wrote:It's not a perfect guilty.

Options:
1. LLD redirected Katsuki's kill to Ginngie
2. LLD killed Ginngie
3. Someone other than the two of them killed Ginngie


LLD, why did you redirect to Ginngie? Seems an odd choice.
Literally, after I called her scum yesterday, I felt she would be the LAST PERSON scum would kill. My other thought was Aristophanes, but I felt that it was better to go with Ginngie, feels like a more "out there" kill.

I wanted to limit the chance of scum blocking me or fucking with my result and then killing the person I redirected to.
Why not redirect to someone you think is scum?
I would assume she redirected the player she thought is scum. And this couldn’t redirect the target to themselves.
Can you not redirect people to themselves?

Either way, it still seems like Ginngie would still be a bad choice over, say, DGB?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:32 am
by Katsuki
In post 2485, Keychain wrote:
Katsuki wrote:I HOPE Y'ALL DONT GET SUCKERED BY LLD'S SWEET TONGUE

PART OF WHY I WANT HER DEAD TODAY IS BECAUSE I DONT TRUST THE REST OF YALL TO POWERLYNCH HER WITHOUT QUESTION AFTER MY TOWNFLIP
Whoa deja vu

In post 2478, Katsuki wrote:irregardless
You're a fan of this word :lol:


Out of the 1v1, I'd much prefer to lynch LLD.
Maybe I do like it a bit much ^_^

OH THAT REMINDS ME

IF BY SOME INSANITY LLD/KATSUKI BOTH FLIP TOWN, MOLLA IS SCUM

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:32 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2493, northsidegal wrote:
In post 2491, BBmolla wrote:
In post 2490, northsidegal wrote:
In post 2479, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2476, Keychain wrote:It's not a perfect guilty.

Options:
1. LLD redirected Katsuki's kill to Ginngie
2. LLD killed Ginngie
3. Someone other than the two of them killed Ginngie


LLD, why did you redirect to Ginngie? Seems an odd choice.
Literally, after I called her scum yesterday, I felt she would be the LAST PERSON scum would kill. My other thought was Aristophanes, but I felt that it was better to go with Ginngie, feels like a more "out there" kill.

I wanted to limit the chance of scum blocking me or fucking with my result and then killing the person I redirected to.
Why not redirect to someone you think is scum?
I would assume she redirected the player she thought is scum. And this couldn’t redirect the target to themselves.
Can you not redirect people to themselves?

Either way, it still seems like Ginngie would still be a bad choice over, say, DGB?
DGB is basically conf town with her claim, and I could easily have seen scum trying to kill her if they chose not to kill me, how are you this dense?

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:32 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2494, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2485, Keychain wrote:
Katsuki wrote:I HOPE Y'ALL DONT GET SUCKERED BY LLD'S SWEET TONGUE

PART OF WHY I WANT HER DEAD TODAY IS BECAUSE I DONT TRUST THE REST OF YALL TO POWERLYNCH HER WITHOUT QUESTION AFTER MY TOWNFLIP
Whoa deja vu

In post 2478, Katsuki wrote:irregardless
You're a fan of this word :lol:


Out of the 1v1, I'd much prefer to lynch LLD.
Maybe I do like it a bit much ^_^

OH THAT REMINDS ME

IF BY SOME INSANITY LLD/KATSUKI BOTH FLIP TOWN, MOLLA IS SCUM
No it's NSG, I think. If that happens.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:33 am
by Keychain
DGB would have been a great choice. Never getting nked due to Centipede reads, essentially vanilla, giant question mark.


Who's good at setup spec in this game? I may have a relevant claim but it could just make things worse, idk.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:35 am
by Pine
In post 2488, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:There is no role in this game scum me could have that could end the game from letting me live tonight.

But there is a thing that town me could have that could change the game in our favour if we are wrong.

You lynch. Katsuki. First. Always.
Image

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:35 am
by northsidegal
In post 2495, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:DGB is basically conf town with her claim, and I could easily have seen scum trying to kill her if they chose not to kill me, how are you this dense?
I disagree. I don't think that makes me dense.

If you think it'd be me over Molla, why not redirect to me then?