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In post 2473, mbaki wrote:i'm going to not care about reads atm because i don't want to get angry, and focus on setup stuff which is largely more important right now

Great idea.

Let's discuss 2395.

And thoughts on ?

OkaPoka wrote:taly we literally cannot 1of4

Any ability that allows scum to nk should be used after we double up on a non nk ability

aka doubling coalition

OK then, are you good with ?

And is risky, I did mention that... fully aware of there being NKs in my plan earlier.... it just gives a greater chance to lynch scum for , that was my thinking for THAT strategy.

Well I want to cut down the playerlist a bit before we coalition

dance is good because it makes coalition better

i don't want to 2 of 4 before coalition because 2 of 4 has op synergy with 1 of 4

RC, veto does not have good synergy with 1of4 if we save 1of4 for last.

...and your preferred path to shortening the playerlist ?

...and if its , then by all means, entertain my exercise in 2412...

...or at least voice an alternative plan.

RadiantCowbells wrote:dance is good because it makes coalition better

i don't want to 2 of 4 before coalition because 2 of 4 has op synergy with 1 of 4

i dont know if im reading this correctly? OP = overpowered?

and do you understand my grievances with ?

saving 1 of 4 for last is questionable

i dont know if im reading this correctly? OP = overpowered?

and do you understand my grievances with dance?

dance doesn't last forever.

I still do not believe veto is strong with 1 of 4.

It requires too much luck and reads to be right.

Arena is probably more suited to 1of4 synergy or even vengeful.

Veto not allowing scum to nk tmck means that if we want to cull the playerlist, we should use it now or after dance

i have very little faith in us lynching scum if we go with with this playerlist

and at least, 1 townie is going to die.

so if we're cutting the playerlist, yeah thanks, we're cutting down town that couldve been resolved another way or placed into

so who do I sheep for this phase

any takers

In post 2483, Taly wrote:i have very little faith in us lynching scum if we go with

dance

with this playerlist

and at least, 1 townie is going to die.

so if we're cutting the playerlist, yeah thanks, we're cutting down town that couldve been resolved another way or placed into

coalition

the issue is that there are some people who will never end up in our coalition

so making the overall coalition easier by reducing the number of coalition members needed to be in it would be a way to play

Of course we can simply not dance or veto and just coalition twice now for two chances to win

This leaves
1of4
Coalition
Dance
Quiz
Rank
Reveal
Vengeful
Veto

I don't personally think we ever Dance. Like, maybe I'm missing, but the argument for Dance is it kills 2 people without a night kill. Guess what... Vengeful does the . The worst case with Vengeful is actually the best case; we lynch scum and they shoot tmck, 100% worth it. Otherwise, we lynch town and get two controlled kills in a row, rather than Dance which has chance.

Veto is very useful if we can all agree on a pool of 4. Perhaps we could Veto first then Vengeful... I assume scum doesn't get an additional nightkill on top of Veto? Possible.

Reveal is useful, but later, if we don't win before its null.

Rank is useful by spamming town, but more useful with 2 scum left.

I don't think I ever Dance.

1 of 4, hopefully we can save until there's 1 scum left. Otherwise, we can use it at 2 if we are really stuck. But it endgames. And to solve 1o f 4, if we mislynch we can use Ranked, to further narrow it down.

Coalition is always a strat to combat all of this, but not my personal choice. Perhaps could be combined.

I'm going to propose an actual plan soon, busy rn really just wanted to get thoughts out cause I seen a lot of stupid shit itt.

Also, to reiterate, why the fuck do people want Dance over Venge? If that's your strat, Venge straight up out classes it o.o

Venge is better paired with 1of4, no?

Venge is essentially lynch if you lynch scum

The way I see it

Protect is to give us an extra day if we can't agree on a power in the 10 days.

also guys

we can decide not to lynch on a dance

In post 2474, OkaPoka wrote:taly we literally cannot 1of4

Any ability that allows scum to nk should be used after we double up on a non nk ability

aka doubling coalition

+1

If scum is allowed even one NK, they will 100% take out either the repicker or the most obvious and useful townies. Our best chance is preventing this from happening.

~N

In post 2489, Ankamius wrote:Venge is essentially lynch if you lynch scum

yes, and?,

So... We would be looking to lynch town?

In post 2477, RadiantCowbells wrote:dance is good because it makes coalition better

i don't want to 2 of 4 before coalition because 2 of 4 has op synergy with 1 of 4

If mafia didn’t choose the pairs, I might agree with you. Scum will probably most likely pair weak scum with obvious townies and this will get them towncred for the bus and lose us probably the most useful and helpful townies. Your strength in all of the dance games, was in making lists that benefitted town, so why can’t scum do this in reverse?

~N

In post 2494, Ankamius wrote:So... We would be looking to lynch town?

are you dumb?

Mbaki, I dont want to fight you, but your analysis is... not good... vengeful is like dance except it gives control BACK to scum if we lynch correctly... plus I dont get to ripick because it's not actually night. I know you might not like my playstyle, but you like actually do need my repick or you will be forced into some crappy choices

Also, how do people not get that the scum strategy for dance is going to be to pair scum with obvtown and conftown and to pair lhf together. We lynch lhf every time and then you know, actually know who the real scum pool is after that... and if they're idiots enough to pair themselves with lhf, they die... and if they're even more idiots and pair themselves together, then they die... it's like mechanically win win

Then explain it to me because I'm apparently not smart enough to understand?