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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:32 am
by Titus
@NM, you should check jjh. There's no reason I should be on the outside if he's town.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:33 am
by jjh927
What's that supposed to mean?

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:34 am
by Moongrass
In post 2472, cyrus62 wrote:nm could you check me or jjh so the fighting stops? it doesn't help town.
Or you could just stop fighting since noone wants your head today.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:35 am
by cyrus62
In post 2477, Moongrass wrote:
In post 2472, cyrus62 wrote:nm could you check me or jjh so the fighting stops? it doesn't help town.
Or you could just stop fighting since noone wants your head today.
i would love to be cleared so i could rub jh nose in it.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:37 am
by jjh927
Not sure if the latter half of that counts as a perspective slip but it looks like Cyrus is assuming I'm town

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:38 am
by Moongrass
Weakly. More strongly it assumes cyrus is town.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:39 am
by jjh927
Right but that's something he would have forced and then neglected that it also assumes I am town

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:40 am
by cyrus62
In post 2479, jjh927 wrote:Not sure if the latter half of that counts as a perspective slip but it looks like Cyrus is assuming I'm town
let me make this clear jh you are town here maybe. scum by default very much so

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:40 am
by Moongrass
I don't actually think cyrus thinks you're scum. It seems like he doesn't like being scumread.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:41 am
by Moongrass
Cyrus do you scumread jjh?

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:41 am
by jjh927
I have at no point in this game felt that Cyrus actually believes I am scum. His scumread on me has been manufactured since before I started engaging with him, because he is scum

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:42 am
by cyrus62
In post 2483, Moongrass wrote:I don't actually think cyrus thinks you're scum. It seems like he doesn't like being scumread.
every game gets old.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:42 am
by Moongrass
Oh.... I get it.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:42 am
by cyrus62
In post 2484, Moongrass wrote:Cyrus do you scumread jjh?
no i just dislike him.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:43 am
by jjh927
Town have to actually try to determine whether someone is town or scum and come to believe either way at various points in the game

Scum have to pretend they have a read on someone who they actually know is town

I believe Cyrus' play has been a failed attempt at the latter. He knows I am town. He does not actually believe the arguments he has made.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:45 am
by Moongrass
Yeah I can see it from D1.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:45 am
by jjh927
I did kinda make a pretty big deal of it right from the beginning but people glossed over it

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:46 am
by cyrus62
so far i have played 10 games . only one game was i town read. in that game i was scum . so some how when i am scum im more believable as town . but when im town im always scum read.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:47 am
by jjh927
I am basically the only player who has pushed you

Most of the players in this game townread you for some reason

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:47 am
by cyrus62
In post 2489, jjh927 wrote:Town have to actually try to determine whether someone is town or scum and come to believe either way at various points in the game

Scum have to pretend they have a read on someone who they actually know is town

I believe Cyrus' play has been a failed attempt at the latter. He knows I am town. He does not actually believe the arguments he has made.
this is super bs and why nm should check him.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:47 am
by jjh927
Also, I thought you disliked meta arguments

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:47 am
by Moongrass
Well his style is so "fresh" and his posts read like a mad stoner wrote them so I just put it down to him being a newbie trying to find some ground. I guess you can take solace in knowing he doesn't end game here.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:50 am
by cyrus62
In post 2493, jjh927 wrote:I am basically the only player who has pushed you

Most of the players in this game townread you for some reason

that's a relief maybe my town play has improved. my scum play hasn't that's for sure but cant talk about it yet due to on going games.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:51 am
by Moongrass
What bugs me is that he's had a PoE pool of 5 players since D1 which hasn't changed after 3 flips.

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:51 am
by Titus
In post 2486, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2483, Moongrass wrote:I don't actually think cyrus thinks you're scum. It seems like he doesn't like being scumread.
every game gets old.
Welcome to my world. Most people don't even remember my legendary start but the old legends passed down their paranoia of me.