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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:03 am
by Datisi
vote count 2.08

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-02-28 12:45:00).


yeet
Nero Cain [3]:
Stephen A Smith, Andante, the worst
Scorpious [2]:
wavemode, HockeyFan
Andante [2]:
Nero Cain, Umlaut
the worst [2]:
Eyes without a face, Scorpious
Eyes without a face [1]:
Dwlee99

not voting [1]:
fireisredsir


mod notes~ this is a mod note.


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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:03 am
by Stephen A Smith
In post 2427, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 2419, Stephen A Smith wrote:which nero post do you find townie again?
I can not be fucked to sift through 25 pages of thier interactions. Anwyays, i decided that thier interaction was t/s, and i found FA scummier since she repeated the same talking abounts about 20 times
this explanation makes no sense

if you think Nero/FA is T/S and FA flips town that makes Nero Scum

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:04 am
by Stephen A Smith
In post 2444, Dwlee99 wrote:I felt like Nero was obviously a PR even D1 sad
can you explain your thought process and show the progression?

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:13 am
by wavemode
can the people who do not believe nero's claim please take a stance on hockeyfan. are they scum fakeclaiming GS and backup GS together? and why do you believe so

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:13 am
by Umlaut
In post 2473, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2464, Umlaut wrote:
In post 2456, Dwlee99 wrote:I swear we are never going to kill eyes lol

If there is a vigilante please for the love of god shoot eyes tyvm
Do you really believe scum doubles down on a VT claim when told someone has a mech guilty on them?
Yes what is the other option
Claim like Ascetic Visitor or some other low- to negative-utility role, and say you were happy to eat a launch because you were probably worse than a VT anyway.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:24 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2479, Umlaut wrote:
In post 2473, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2464, Umlaut wrote:
In post 2456, Dwlee99 wrote:I swear we are never going to kill eyes lol

If there is a vigilante please for the love of god shoot eyes tyvm
Do you really believe scum doubles down on a VT claim when told someone has a mech guilty on them?
Yes what is the other option
Claim like Ascetic Visitor or some other low- to negative-utility role, and say you were happy to eat a launch because you were probably worse than a VT anyway.
That's a scum claim. If you didn't claim ascetic in first post...

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:49 am
by Andante
In post 2478, wavemode wrote:can the people who do not believe nero's claim please take a stance on hockeyfan. are they scum fakeclaiming GS and backup GS together? and why do you believe so
"I'm an even night role, and tonight is an even night. let me live 1 more night!" that just screams JOAT/strongarm

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:55 am
by fireisredsir
what is strongarm

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:56 am
by Andante
uhhh I think that's is.. makes mafia kill go through

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:59 am
by Stephen A Smith
In post 2478, wavemode wrote:can the people who do not believe nero's claim please take a stance on hockeyfan. are they scum fakeclaiming GS and backup GS together? and why do you believe so
do either of them have any crumbs?

also hockeyfan has weird interactions with nero cain - if nero flips scum today hockey probly on an express train to yeetville tomm - not reason for him not to double down on nero's claim

also kinda of convenient how the two susp people with weird interactions happen to be gunsmith and backup gunsmith

anyway save me the trouble just fakeclaim mason next time.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:28 am
by wavemode
what if I told you that I'm a 1-shot rolecop and I know for a fact that hockeyfan is a backup 1-shot gunsmith

so my knee jerk reaction to nero's claim was, how did he know to claim gunsmith of all things? hockey had not told us what he was a backup for

unless they are mafia GS and mafia backup GS? which, wow wtf. but it's technically possible I suppose. still, it's strange to claim that together and become joined at the hip (the typical risk associated with mason fakeclaims)

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:28 am
by Scorpious
In post 2482, fireisredsir wrote:what is strongarm
Nearly unpreventable kill.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:36 am
by fireisredsir
In post 2485, wavemode wrote:what if I told you that I'm a 1-shot rolecop and I know for a fact that hockeyfan is a backup 1-shot gunsmith

so my knee jerk reaction to nero's claim was, how did he know to claim gunsmith of all things? hockey had not told us what he was a backup for
well one possibility is that you are his partner and you told him (:

why would you use your one rolecop shot on hockey of all people, when you were pretty strongly townreading him and you knew he was a backup already? how does it help town you to know what he is a backup of?

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:46 am
by fireisredsir
and on the other hand if maf did have a rolecop i would 100% expect them to use it on hockey

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 am
by Nero Cain
In post 2484, Stephen A Smith wrote:also hockeyfan has weird interactions with nero cain
what was weird?
In post 2481, Andante wrote:
In post 2478, wavemode wrote:can the people who do not believe nero's claim please take a stance on hockeyfan. are they scum fakeclaiming GS and backup GS together? and why do you believe so
"I'm an even night role, and tonight is an even night. let me live 1 more night!" that just screams JOAT/strongarm
Why would I fakeclaim as town?

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:54 am
by Eyes without a face
The situation is very very simple now. IF there is a GS (other than Nero) they should claim. If there's no CC then Nero, Hockey and wave are now semi-confirmed townies (I would have said confirmed except if there is some kind of another investigative that doesn't make since to co-exist with the gunsmith).

I still townread fire and Scorpious, so the whole scum team is in the worst/Dwlee/Andante/Umlaut/Stephen

Something I've noticed that may or may not mean anything: Dwlee has been shouting "eyes is scum" all game. Stephen has been tunneled on Nero. Andante adopted that game play of late and is advocating an Umlaut lim. Would it make sense for the whole team to adopt the same approach to the game at this point (tunnel on one player to look busy)?

But if that's the case then I hate the worst even more, because that was no way to play as a townie.

Regardless if there is no CC so that's where I am right now

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:56 am
by wavemode
In post 2487, fireisredsir wrote:why would you use your one rolecop shot on hockey of all people
there is no "of all people" with rolecopping, what are you even talking about. there's almost no point shooting a rolecop shot blindly

I pretty much only considered shooting it at people who had claimed, namely eyes and hockey. if I found out they were lying about their claim, boom that's a guilty

now, consider two alternative failure scenarios. scenario 1: I shoot at eyes and it comes back vanilla. great, I've gained zero information from this, since I would come away still thinking he's a mafia goon

scenario 2: I shoot at hockey and it comes back backup <some role>. now I at least gain some setup information - namely, that someone who later claims to be that role, is probably telling the truth and is indeed that role. either that or is incredibly lucky (or mafia also have a rolecop who targeted hockey? ehhhh okay)

so the hockey shot gained me information regardless of its result

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:58 am
by wavemode
or, as I said before, they're mafia gunsmiths together. which, again, wtf, but okay whatever

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:08 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2477, Stephen A Smith wrote:
In post 2444, Dwlee99 wrote:I felt like Nero was obviously a PR even D1 sad
can you explain your thought process and show the progression?
Nero was acting like a PR, I thought he was a PR, I was right

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:09 am
by Dwlee99
Imagine if we killed eyes instead of outing three power roles. Wow :weary:

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:11 am
by Dwlee99
VOTE: Scorpius
Whatever. I think this is scum (and with eyes)

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:12 am
by fireisredsir
In post 2491, wavemode wrote:there is no "of all people" with rolecopping, what are you even talking about. there's almost no point shooting a rolecop shot blindly

I pretty much only considered shooting it at people who had claimed, namely eyes and hockey. if I found out they were lying about their claim, boom that's a guilty
i don't really get how the small amount of info you gain from hockey is more useful than saving it for actually checking out a claim when one happens. unlimited, okay. but one-shot? it's not like you were likely to be in much danger of dying

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:15 am
by wavemode
I've been killed n1 before just for having good reads. I don't hold onto my shots when there are viable targets on the table

the most likely scenario, regardless of what I decided to do, was that my role would be completely useless. that's fine. but holding onto it just increases that likelihood, not decreases it

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:17 am
by Stephen A Smith
In post 2493, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2477, Stephen A Smith wrote:
In post 2444, Dwlee99 wrote:I felt like Nero was obviously a PR even D1 sad
can you explain your thought process and show the progression?
Nero was acting like a PR, I thought he was a PR, I was right
You need to give me more than that.

like I read post # ___ and it made me think Nero was PR because ___ thought came into my head

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:18 am
by Dwlee99
Andante
the worst
Umlaut
Scorpious
Eyes without a face

In preference order (highest most want to lim)

Eyes
Scorpius
Umlaut
The Worst/Andante (kinda same feeling of just like "meh poe")