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In post 998, Malakittens wrote:

In post 996, skitter30 wrote:I mean i'm opening the door for said miracle if you'd like to explain ur pov some more
Werent u townreading them at the time of the initial flirting?

No, not because of the flirting.

IDK. I was liking ari's initial posts because she felt like she was trying to move the game along and as for Datisi. I may have just gotten the warm and fuzzy feeling in his inital i'm going to townping her and I like how he didn't care to give his POV.

now I'm just paranoid of them so

In post 1002, Malakittens wrote:

In post 999, skitter30 wrote:Can u point to something specific ur paranoid over?

I believe I answered this already. I have a tendancy to get pocketed quite easily. once i get townread and i have known/comfortable with the player i kinda just place blinders on and don't think the slot can be scum. it just burned me in two games recently, one which i was able to get out of the pocket and the other which i didnt

i'm just scared if one of dat/ari is scum the other is pocketed and they are going to use each other to manipulate

In post 2472, fireisredsir wrote:def thought bloodhail was dying so kinda interesting that he didn't ig

In post 2476, bloodhail wrote:

In post 2472, fireisredsir wrote:def thought bloodhail was dying so kinda interesting that he didn't ig

have a dumb theory about faker dying that i will not share

In post 862, Datisi wrote:

In post 753, Aristeia wrote:I do find it somewhat funny if Datisi is playing one of his best scumgames but just happens to be paired with a partner that gets joy out of derptunneling his partner for fun and trolling them.

Also it would be somewhat of a tragedy I would also feel quite bad for him <3

In post 760, Aristeia wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=86932

this is the iso of Peta where he breaks down how he felt NK15 played as scum:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

i'm aware of that game. that's why i said that nk15's play is very within his scum meta (which he agreed on lol). if i opened my role pm and i saw "ur scum w nk15", the first thing i'd do is go into the scum pt and lay out a plan on what exactly is he going to post because uh yeah. and if i saw him pulling that same shit again, i'd just start prodging and waiting for town to form a winning coalition so i can get out. anyway.

i was gonna write another paragraph about nk15's play here and why it doesn't make sense from town but 859 sums it up well.

In post 2443, Not Known 15 wrote:Myself and Ari will probably have to be limmed after this. This leaves us with one more lim. Who?

In post 2454, Roden wrote:Tbh you likely would've died if Mena hadn't replaced out since he was tunneled on town slots.

In post 1962, fireisredsir wrote:ughhh

i was kinda getting paranoid of datisi and so i went to go reread his scum games to remind myself what that looks like and how ive thought he was town when he's scum before

and came away from it thinking that it doesn't really feel similar to this at all, actually

so now idk what to make of that

In post 1865, Roden wrote:

@Datisi:

Where's your head at? VCs aren't telling me anything about what you're thinking, you stuck to one coalition choice Day 1 and currently aren't voting anyone.

In post 1884, Roden wrote:

In post 1872, Datisi wrote:

In post 1864, Roden wrote:I think Mena is town.

why?

After reading Mena's ISO and getting a feeling for the game state, I don't think Mena vs Elephant is SvS. Mena switching from "kill STD" to "kill Rella -> Ari" after acknowledging he's the most likely elim today feels like a spew that would be harmful to his scum partner since I don't think it would be either of them in that scenario, which makes me think it's a genuine final reads list from a dying townie. I think their frustration with this Day phase is also genuine. Going back further, though I don't think STD is scum, I do think Mena's case on him came from a solvey mindset.

In post 1872, Datisi wrote:

In post 1865, Roden wrote:

@Datisi:

Where's your head at? VCs aren't telling me anything about what you're thinking, you stuck to one coalition choice Day 1 and currently aren't voting anyone.

i have an iso >.> but basically, thinking mena is town for [meta reasons that seem to not vibe with anyone other than skitter], ari is town for the way she played d1. have been thinking skitter is most likely scum in the coalition for a while (but i've kinda liked her more recent posting i guess??? jury's still out), and getting increasingly nervous about irrel

outside the coalition, thinking fire is town but fuck if i know about the other three -- std is more likely to be town than the other two i guess but i am v low confidence on all of those

I actually did read your ISO, I just wanted an updated take since EoD is approaching and you've been fence sitting.

NK15 feels obvtown to me, he's too confident and tunneled to be scum, and everyone here is competent enough to coach him to not flail with his reads/solves going into Day 2. Fire is null to me only because they didn't seem to have the spotlight at all so far. I agree with STD likely being town, but disagree with your Skitter scum read, consensus nominations tend to be town and nothing in her ISO sticks out as scummy to me.

I've noticed while skimming that a lot of people think there's at least one scum between you and Ari, and while I agree, I think it's odd that no one really seemed to push you two. It's too late in the day to do it now, but you two should've been leading wagons imo, that would've given everyone plenty of info seeing who would push who and if your wagons would naturally dissipate. If you were both town, I believe scum would see you two as the optimal push on Day 2, and if I'm right on NK15 being town then scum likely would've backed him when he scum cased the two of you. I just don't see how there could be zero momentum towards wagoning either of you if you're both town and part of the coalition.

I think I'm going to end up voting Elephant today, I just want to finish going through his ISO first. If I end up town reading him though then idk.

In post 2486, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 2454, Roden wrote:Tbh you likely would've died if Mena hadn't replaced out since he was tunneled on town slots.

what slots are you referring to here

In post 2479, Save The Dragons wrote:i think the kill is weird and i too have a dumb theory about it but it's probably just there to throw us off

i dunno i think gth it's just roden at this point? but i dunno what to think anymore i just townread everyone else more

In post 2481, Save The Dragons wrote:more than roden. i dunno maybe it is just ari/datisi and nk15 is a god i really don't know what to think

In post 2491, Aristeia wrote:mb fire didnt shoot you cuz u said he was townie

In post 2492, Roden wrote:

In post 2486, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 2454, Roden wrote:Tbh you likely would've died if Mena hadn't replaced out since he was tunneled on town slots.

what slots are you referring to here

The slots he was tunneled on.

We had this conversation yesterday.

In post 2493, Roden wrote:

In post 2479, Save The Dragons wrote:i think the kill is weird and i too have a dumb theory about it but it's probably just there to throw us off

i dunno i think gth it's just roden at this point? but i dunno what to think anymore i just townread everyone else more

In post 2481, Save The Dragons wrote:more than roden. i dunno maybe it is just ari/datisi and nk15 is a god i really don't know what to think

You literally haven't interacted with me

What makes you think I'm scum

In post 2495, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 2492, Roden wrote:

In post 2486, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 2454, Roden wrote:Tbh you likely would've died if Mena hadn't replaced out since he was tunneled on town slots.

what slots are you referring to here

The slots he was tunneled on.

We had this conversation yesterday.

...did we? i can't find it

why are you so confident in them being town?

In post 2083, Roden wrote:

In post 1887, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1884, Roden wrote:Mena switching from "kill STD" to "kill Rella -> Ari" after acknowledging he's the most likely elim today feels like a spew that would be harmful to his scum partner since I don't think it would be either of them in that scenario,

I dont understand this bit

Basically scum doesn't make those posts and final read lists if they know they're gonna die. Rena/Elephant and Rena/Ari don't work as scum teams at that point either since they don't fit a scum agenda. I wish was more eloquent in getting my thoughts across but I can't think of a better way of explaining it.

In post 2496, Save The Dragons wrote:

In post 2493, Roden wrote:

In post 2479, Save The Dragons wrote:i think the kill is weird and i too have a dumb theory about it but it's probably just there to throw us off

i dunno i think gth it's just roden at this point? but i dunno what to think anymore i just townread everyone else more

In post 2481, Save The Dragons wrote:more than roden. i dunno maybe it is just ari/datisi and nk15 is a god i really don't know what to think

You literally haven't interacted with me

What makes you think I'm scum

mala