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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:50 pm
by Riceballtail
Xeras, IS, Pine.

Also

CLAIM:MILLER

Vote:Pine

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:00 pm
by redFF
if you're gonna claim miller you might as well claim full role too.

quickly now

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:04 pm
by jdm998
redFF wrote:if you're gonna claim miller you might as well claim full role too.

quickly now


This.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:45 pm
by Yates
I'm in a game with Pine right now. It's only Day 3 so we are pretty much new to each other.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:59 pm
by Internet Stranger
RBT has been scum in every game I have been with her. Every time she tries something new, and each time I still catch her for the scum she really is; I guess claiming miller is the new iteration of her little theatrics.

Vote: RBT


I will never trust her.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:12 pm
by redFF
yeah i agree its weird she didn't just name claim if she was actually miller.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:42 pm
by Zeek
What does the name have to do with the role? Sure it might make some influences, but wouldn't it be a bit unfair if all the roles were based off of the character's roles?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:20 pm
by Klazam
redFF- Why do you want a nameclaim? I'd judge the claim on its own merits. A name does not add anything to the role, i believe.

unvote, vote redFF


I'll just treat that miller claim like a nulltell, but in my limited experience- I'd be inclined to believe it. Lynch RBT if RBT looks scummy, dont lynch RBT if RBT seems town, lynch RBT before we get to lylo. thats all i think the claim means to me.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:12 pm
by Xeras
I have played with RedFF and Riceballtail.

Anyway, I really hate it when people claim miller right out of the door, whether or not they are.

Unvote, Vote RiceballTail

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:15 pm
by Riceballtail
Would you rather I didn't claim it and got lynched for a guilty verdict later in LyLo?

I'm not sure if nameclaiming is key right now.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:19 pm
by Xeras
Riceballtail wrote:Would you rather I didn't claim it and got lynched for a guilty verdict later in LyLo?

I'm not sure if nameclaiming is key right now.


So are you saying it is impossible to live after a guilty investigation?

I also don't see why you would role claim, but not character claim.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:21 pm
by Riceballtail
Well, as long as I don't claim my role name, we can potentially catch scum for trying to take the character I have. This does however assume they don't have fakeclaims. There's no reason to presume either way, so it's best to keep all information that DOESN'T need to be made public out of scum's hands.

It's also good form to claim miller in your first post if you are.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:43 pm
by Xeras
Or perhaps you can be scum, such as a mafia goon. Due to your reputation as being... lynchbait you most likely assumed you would be investigated first, or something similar. So as a measure you decided to claim miller, and see how far you could get as a 'miller'. Furthermore, it is quite possible that you are not name claiming, because it is quite possible that scum were not given fakeclaims. So as scum, you want to make sure you don't claim someone else's name.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:12 pm
by Riceballtail
I have no motivation for fakeclaiming miller. If I ever did, it would earn me a reputation of being lynched for it immediately. I have no desire to inflict that upon my faction in any game, so I am not really interested in doing so.

Your persistent rolefishing is noted though.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:18 pm
by Xeras
How is it role fishing when you already stated your role?

Also, if you thought you would be lynched immediately for claiming miller, then why do it?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:22 pm
by Riceballtail
I didn't think I was going to be. That's the point of being honest when I claim that. Nice misrep though.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:24 pm
by Xeras
Question.

In a game I recently played, I had a miller subtype. I was investigated night one. How long do you think I lasted?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:13 pm
by Zeek
Xeras wrote:Question.

In a game I recently played, I had a miller subtype. I was investigated night one. How long do you think I lasted?



To the endgame?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:43 pm
by Xeras
Actually, I got lynched at Mylo, but only because I was quicklynched while being at work...

But, talking to riceballtail has gotten boring. x.x

In all honesty, I am actually slightly leaning towards either Internet Stranger or Klazam.

Unvote, Vote Internet Stranger

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:22 pm
by Klazam
Riceballtail wrote:Well, as long as I don't claim my role name, we can potentially catch scum for trying to take the character I have. This does however assume they don't have fakeclaims. There's no reason to presume either way, so it's best to keep all information that DOESN'T need to be made public out of scum's hands.


RBT basically said the reason why i'm voting for redFF.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:47 pm
by Zeek
Why is a miller in lylo bad? I am afraid i am unaware of the stigma against millers.

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:54 pm
by Klazam
I think its bad because if RBT is actually claiming miller as a scum tool to prevent a cop-guilty on RBT, so better safe than sorry.

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:08 am
by jasonT1981
Riceballtail wrote:I have no motivation for fakeclaiming miller. If I ever did, it would earn me a reputation of being lynched for it immediately. I have no desire to inflict that upon my faction in any game, so I am not really interested in doing so.

Your persistent rolefishing is noted though.


I have seen scum come out and claim miller right away in the past, so as to avoid the usual process of 'there is a guilty, you must be scum' If and when there is a cop investigation. HOWEVER it is also commonly accepted practice for a miller to claim right away. Because if they then have a guilty, questions are asked, well why didn't you tell us earlier?

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:21 am
by redFF
Klazam wrote:redFF- Why do you want a nameclaim? I'd judge the claim on its own merits. A name does not add anything to the role, i believe.

unvote, vote redFF


I'll just treat that miller claim like a nulltell, but in my limited experience- I'd be inclined to believe it. Lynch RBT if RBT looks scummy, dont lynch RBT if RBT seems town, lynch RBT before we get to lylo. thats all i think the claim means to me.

it's very easy for scum to fakeclaim miller first post. it's harder for scum to think up a character that works with the claim and risk being counterclaimed. Luckily this is a theme game and we can ask for that.

VOTE: Riceballtail

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:22 am
by Zeek
The above post pointed me in the direction of the realization that i was confusing miller and mason. I have only ever played games with masons before.

Not only are things much clearer to me now, but i feel this game could get much more interesting.