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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:12 am
by Tierce
Votecount 1.1


Xalxe
(5) - Mortontfrh, Chimera, vijay2vasandani, Cogito Ergo Sum, Glork
Guy_Named_Riggs
(2) - Xalxe, saulres
Cogito Ergo Sum
(1) - Fritzler,
Glork

Glork
(1) - scotmany12
Fritzler
(1) - Guy_Named_Riggs
Mortontfrh
(0) -
Xalxe, vijay2vasandani

scotmany12
(0) -
Glork

izakthegoomba
(0) -
saulres


Not voting
(2) -
Cogito Ergo Sum, Xalxe, vijay2vasandani,
izakthegoomba,
Chimera, saulres, Guy_Named_Riggs, Mortontfrh, Fritzler, scotmany12,
Shadoweh,
Glork



Please do not talk about ongoing games.

izakthegoomba is V/LA until Sunday night (May 20th).

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
The deadline is June 2 at 1:30 AM GMT (DST). Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2012-06-02 01:30:00)

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:52 am
by Fritzler
Unvote, Vote: Xalxe


I agree, he got awfully protective, awfully fast.

Claim
and
die.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:25 am
by Shadoweh
##Vote: Fritzer


Unless you honestly plan to lynch someone off of RVS votes running people up for claims is stupid. Xalxe doesn't look defensive anyways, just looking for information in the low count stage of the game.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 11:45 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
^is getting vigged.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:37 pm
by Xalxe
Glork wrote:
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:You're boring.

Vote: Xalxe


This wagon is suddenly excellent.


Goddamn it you're scum aren't you?

Fritzler wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Xalxe


I agree, he got awfully protective, awfully fast.

Claim
and
die.


Protective? Defensive might be better, but I'd disagree. I'm trying to get people talking because nobody was doing anything. Clearly scumhunting is bad.

Wait, did Fritz and Glork just tell me scumhunting was bad? Dafuq is this game?

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:41 pm
by Cogito Ergo Sum
Asking boring questions =/= scumhunting. Don't be dense.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:47 pm
by Xalxe
I'm sorry, what questions would you
like
me to ask?

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:53 pm
by Fritzler
I would like you to ask: "vanilla or chocolate?"

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:14 pm
by Glork
POP QUIZ

Everyone tell me the last time you used "third/fourth/fifth on the first wagon" to actually catch scum.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 3:36 pm
by Guy_Named_Riggs
Glork wrote:POP QUIZ

Everyone tell me the last time you used "third/fourth/fifth on the first wagon" to actually catch scum.

Never.

unvote
no need for a quick lynch yet

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 3:52 pm
by saulres
The only positions I've used to catch scum are first and last. But I do look for scum among the reasons given for joining a wagon (once said wagon actually flips, mind you).

So if you don't want me thinking you're scum, please give a reason when you place your vote. While you might think the reason is obvious (and here I'm looking at Glork and vijay) I often don't see what others do but can appreciate arguments.

I think CES can vouch for that, I remember asking him for his reasons in another game and getting very frustrated when he said something like "Look at his ISO" -- if I can't see what you see, then I have no reason to agree with you.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:43 pm
by scotmany12
Glork wrote:POP QUIZ

Everyone tell me the last time you used "third/fourth/fifth on the first wagon" to actually catch scum.

Way back in the beginning of time.

Xalxe. Your questions were anything but scumhunting. I don't think they serve any purpose.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:07 pm
by Mortontfrh
I'm not a fan of how quickly Xalxe was put at L-1, especially without any mention of it.

Fritzler wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Xalxe


I agree, he got awfully protective, awfully fast.

Claim
and
die.


Unvote

Vote: Fritzler


Are you aware that this was an L-1 vote? If so, why didn't you bother to make any mention of it?

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:33 pm
by scotmany12
Mortontfrh wrote:I'm not a fan of how quickly Xalxe was put at L-1, especially without any mention of it.

Fritzler wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Xalxe


I agree, he got awfully protective, awfully fast.

Claim
and
die.


Unvote

Vote: Fritzler


Are you aware that this was an L-1 vote? If so, why didn't you bother to make any mention of it?

Him saying claim and die is both him showing that he is aware of being L-1 and hi making a mention of it. That's pretty obvious.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:46 pm
by Mortontfrh
No, it's really not considering that vote was placed at the start of page 2 where asking for claims isn't normal behavior.

I assumed he was being sarcastic with his request for him to claim, I didn't view it as a "I'm announcing that you're at L-1 by saying that I want you hammered".

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:54 pm
by saulres
Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:
unvote
no need for a quick lynch yet


So you unvoted to make sure Xalxe doesn't get quick lynched?

Only problem with that is your vote was on Fritzler, who had only two votes, so Xalxe is still at L-1, even though your post tried to make it seem like it wasn't.

My RVS vote on you is now a real one.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:55 pm
by saulres
EBWOP Actually at the time of the unvote yours was the [/i]only[/i] vote on Fritzler.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:56 pm
by saulres
ebwop2 damn i'm tired. Maybe there were three. Any way you cut it, your post was misleading and Fritzler wasn't at risk of quickhammer.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:31 pm
by Fritzler
Mortontfrh wrote:No, it's really not considering that vote was placed at the start of page 2 where asking for claims isn't normal behavior.

I assumed he was being sarcastic with his request for him to claim, I didn't view it as a "I'm announcing that you're at L-1 by saying that I want you hammered".

Ummmm...it is pretty obvious that I knew I was L-1 when I told him to claim. You claim at L-1 and then you get lynched and die. That is pretty much the pretty triple truth. I am sorry that you don't understand subtext, and I will never try to read Wilde with you.

P.S. Wilde is a homosexual FYI.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:34 pm
by Fritzler
Mortontfrh wrote:No, it's really not considering that vote was placed at the start of page 2 where asking for claims isn't normal behavior.

Also, since when is asking for claims on page 2 not normal behaviour? This is my first game in ages, mate. We normally have like seven page games. I realize GOTY is going to last longer, but this won't will it?

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:35 pm
by Fritzler
Also, why are you such a total asshole?

FOS

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:51 pm
by Mortontfrh
Ummmm...it is pretty obvious that I knew I was L-1 when I told him to claim. You claim at L-1 and then you get lynched and die. That is pretty much the pretty triple truth. I am sorry that you don't understand subtext, and I will never try to read Wilde with you.


The point of announcing that you are putting a player at L-1 isn't solely for your own sake, it's to make sure that someone doesn't come along and place a vote nonchalantly and hammer him. I find this to be even more troublesome in the RVS, where players are going to be more inclined to place a quick random vote without reading into the thread.

Also, since when is asking for claims on page 2 not normal behaviour? This is my first game in ages, mate. We normally have like seven page games. I realize GOTY is going to last longer, but this won't will it?


I don't think i've ever seen a serious request for a claim in page 2.

Also, why are you such a total asshole?

FOS


I don't think i've been an asshole to you at all. However, my apologies to you if you feel like I was rude to you. Is that FOS in regards to something that I did that you think is scummy, or are you FOSing me based on my "Asshole" behavior?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 5:53 am
by saulres
Fritzler wrote:You claim at L-1 and then you get lynched and die.


What's the point of claiming then, since the role is going to be revealed when they die? The claim is supposed to be a chance for you to get
out
of being killed, if you're a PR or something.

Fritzler wrote:We normally have like seven page games. I realize GOTY is going to last longer, but this won't will it?


Most likely it will; there are significantly more games with more than 7 pages than with less, especially when you look at 13-player games.

Fritzler wrote:Also, why are you such a total asshole?


Where did he do
anything
that could cause you to label him with the term "asshole"?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:07 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
^Third scum caught.

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:32 am
by saulres
How many posts up does your carat point?

And, why?

saulres wrote:While you might think the reason is obvious (and here I'm looking at Glork and vijay) I often don't see what others do but can appreciate arguments.