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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:11 am
by Sotty7
Hmm? What is it? There's nothing to talk about.
We're both cursed; Undead. But what is there really to moan about?
First vote count of Day one
SaintKerrigan: 5 (RestFermata, SaintKerrigan, tigerzone, Nachomamma8, Empking)
empking: 2 (leviathan93, FourTrouble)
Debonair Danny DiPietro: 1 (Human Destroyer)
Human Destroyer: 1 (VP Baltar)
Not voting: 4 (JasonT1981, PeregrineV, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Iecerint)
With
13
players alive it takes
7
to lynch
DEADLINE:
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:30 am
by Debonair Danny DiPietro
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:Vote: VP Baltar
i was really looking forward to playing with him and i realize this is going to bias any read that i might have on him. so, it's probably best if we policy speed-lynch him before he posts and blows me away. if he flips scum, we got scum VP Baltar. if he flips town, then I won't be killed during the night so I will be able to reanalyze and fix things tomorrow.
anyone who doesn't agree with this line of logic is probably scum.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:31 am
by Debonair Danny DiPietro
Probably should have thrown both a sad face and a +1 on this. Still can't bring myself to act on it.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:29 am
by PeregrineV
Vote: VP Baltar
Karma!
Was scum in my first theme game here that Sotty also modded.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:41 am
by PeregrineV
@Kerrigan- I've seen a lot more scum self-vote during RVS than town. What's up?
@Four- You're voting EmpKing for getting on Kerrigan wagon, which is a wagon she herself is on.Somehow that bugs me.
Vote: FourTrouble
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:35 am
by jasonT1981
lol daykill
FourTrouble
Not just trouble... FOUR trouble..... not good, not good at all.
SK be town, unless he scum, but he be town
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:02 am
by jasonT1981
ummm there was meant to be a vote there, not a link
vote:fourtrouble
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:23 am
by VP Baltar
↑ Nachomamma8 wrote:i haven't seen a daykill gambit work in a long time
but tiger's town as hell, you can stop fucking with him now
you just have to know how to pull it off and who to pull it off against. tigerzone is prob town.
humandestroyer is still a good vote.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:34 am
by VP Baltar
nacho looks good too. no other feeling strong enough to comment on just yet. we shall see where DDD goes. he should be obv to me soon enough
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:08 am
by Human Destroyer
This SaintKerrigan wagon screams ickiness
I mean, self-voting is anti-town but what's the scum motivation for it?
DDD, why aren't you voting?
Tiger is prob-town
I don't like Nacho's or Empking's jump on the shitty wagon, but Emp wagon is larger and has more support so
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Empking
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:46 am
by PeregrineV
↑ Human Destroyer wrote:This SaintKerrigan wagon screams ickiness
I mean, self-voting is anti-town but what's the scum motivation for it?
DDD, why aren't you voting?
Tiger is prob-town
I don't like Nacho's or Empking's jump on the shitty wagon, but Emp wagon is larger and has more support so
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Empking
To avoid connections being made, even in RVS.
But, see that more from new-scum than established players, which leads me away from scum. But, whats the town motivation to vote oneself (aside from frustration)?
agree on tiger
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:50 am
by jasonT1981
↑ Human Destroyer wrote:This SaintKerrigan wagon screams ickiness
I mean, self-voting is anti-town but what's the scum motivation for it?
DDD, why aren't you voting?
Tiger is prob-town
I don't like Nacho's or Empking's jump on the shitty wagon, but Emp wagon is larger and has more support so
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Empking
I don't think self vote in RVS is a big tell, i've seen it many times, I think I have done it once or twice. Town or scum can do it. Not that telling
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:08 am
by FourTrouble
↑ PeregrineV wrote:@Four- You're voting EmpKing for getting on Kerrigan wagon, which is a wagon she herself is on.Somehow that bugs me.
IF SK is town (which is more likely than not), doesn't that make it a safe wagon for scum to hide on? Are you suggesting that everyone on the SK wagon is town?
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:17 am
by Iecerint
I think SaintKerrigan and tigerzone are the scummiest so far. SK is scummy not because of his self-vote, but because of the rest of the post. It has nothing to do with the fact that he has forgotten about me.
Tigerzone was scummy for jumping on that point overstrongly, but I agree about the daykill gambit response business, given how quick he was to respond.
EDIT: Now I will vote for FourTrouble because of post 37.
VOTE: FourTrouble
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:19 am
by jasonT1981
^^ so you go to lengths to explain your scum read on SK and Tiger, but then lazy vote 4Trouble just saying because of above post? can you explain what it is about the post that makes you think scum?
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:20 am
by PeregrineV
↑ FourTrouble wrote: ↑ PeregrineV wrote:@Four- You're voting EmpKing for getting on Kerrigan wagon, which is a wagon she herself is on.Somehow that bugs me.
IF SK is town (which is more likely than not), doesn't that make it a safe wagon for scum to hide on?
You think SK is town, but SK is voting herself, which was your stated reason for voting EmpKing.
Is it his vote for her, or the fact he was the fifth vote on her?
You gave multiple reasons for your vote, which means it wasn't RVS, and those reasons are making sense to me.
↑ FourTrouble wrote:Are you suggesting that everyone on the SK wagon is town?
I have no clue (but doubt it). You saw the reasons people are voting her, what do you think?
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:21 am
by Human Destroyer
↑ PeregrineV wrote:
But, see that more from new-scum than established players, which leads me away from scum. But, whats the town motivation to vote oneself (aside from frustration)?
I don't really know. So it's a null tell.
jasonT1981 wrote:^^ so you go to lengths to explain your scum read on SK and Tiger, but then lazy vote 4Trouble just saying because of above post? can you explain what it is about the post that makes you think scum?
*nods in agreement*
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:28 am
by Iecerint
↑ jasonT1981 wrote:^^ so you go to lengths to explain your scum read on SK and Tiger, but then lazy vote 4Trouble just saying because of above post? can you explain what it is about the post that makes you think scum?
1. Tiger is probably town, perceived-scumminess on my part notwithstanding.
2. FT is responding to reasonable page 1/2 stuff with a question that frames Peregrine in a scummy light AND is probably not going to garner interesting information about Peregrine. Presence of clear scum motivation + absence of clear town motivation.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:30 am
by FourTrouble
I voted Empking because he was the last vote on SK at the time. I also didn't find nacho scummy, had no information on tiger, and wasn't gonna vote Rest because it was RVS. Empking was the most likely option to be scum on that wagon.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:38 am
by FourTrouble
↑ Iecerint wrote:FT is responding to reasonable page 1/2 stuff with a question that frames Peregrine in a scummy light AND is probably not going to garner interesting information about Peregrine. Presence of clear scum motivation + absence of clear town motivation.
Uh, no. I don't think I framed him in a scummy light... The questions I asked were primarily a response/defense to Peregrine's terrible reason to vote me, and also an attempt to understand the motivations behind Peregrine's shitty reasoning. The town motivation there is pretty simple: is Peregrine's bad vote have scummy motivation or town motivation.
You're vote is worse though, no depth of thought to your analysis whatsoever. You're not considering my reactions from MY perspective.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:40 am
by FourTrouble
↑ PeregrineV wrote:I have no clue (but doubt it). You saw the reasons people are voting her, what do you think?
I already answered your question, obviously. If you "doubt" that everyone on the SK wagon is town, then why the fuck are you voting for me? Your stated reason for doing so was because I was voting someone on the SK wagon even though SK was voting himself... but if you agree that someone on the SK wagon is probably not town, then you have no reason whatsoever to vote for me.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:48 am
by Iecerint
↑ FourTrouble wrote:IF SK is town (which is more likely than not), doesn't that make it a safe wagon for scum to hide on?
Are you suggesting that everyone on the SK wagon is town?
This is framing his actions in a scummy light. It doesn't even have much of anything to do with what Peregrine has posted.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:01 am
by FourTrouble
Iecerint, he says he's voting me because I voted someone on SK's wagon. The implication is that everyone on the SK wagon is town, and thus anyone voting one of them is scum. It has everything to do with what Peregrine posted.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:02 am
by FourTrouble
Vote Iecerint
This guy is not reading the game carefully or giving it much though, and his vote on me is looking more and more contrived.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:08 am
by Iecerint
No, Peregrine's implication is that you were being opportunistic in voting someone on SK's wagon in a way that doesn't make much sense for town.