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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:58 pm
by AngryPidgeon
"Hey thats 48 kills right there!"- Pilot

"Special! Do you have caps and t-shirts too?" - Kara 'Starbuck' Thrace


Vote Count 1.1fferyllt [3/5] - Syryana, orcinus_theoriginal, Sotty7
Syryana [1/5] - Lurker
Sotty7 [1/5] - pitoli

Pacifists (Not Voting): fferyllt, buldermar, Nero, Deltabacon

Deadline: April 16th at Noon (GMT-8)
(expired on 2013-04-16 12:00:00)


Mod Notes:
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:01 pm
by fferyllt
orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Syrana. Since he tried to cover it up with a pretty bullshit reason. Everyone else at least was pretty open that this was a RVS wagon

That being said I don't believe town ff would give away town reads as easily as that. Last game you were unsure about my alignment all the way until day 2, going scum, then town, then scum.

Vote is now serious

My rethink was really more about Klick than you. I got a town read on you via that interaction over my "interesting" and your random vote. I should have trusted my early read. But new site, bunch of players I didn't know and a game format that I really didn't like.

I hope I'm right about you. And if you get me lynched, which I kinda doubt, I hope that the bandwagon analysis bites scum and not you.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:03 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
fferyllt wrote:

I hope I'm right about you. And if you get me lynched, which I kinda doubt, I hope that the bandwagon analysis bites scum and not you.

Ok as much as I love people who town read me this is overkill for page 2

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:08 pm
by fferyllt
Ha. The doubts. They grow.

Only fair after all the middle of the night thread checking I did in that other damn game.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:15 pm
by fferyllt
orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Syrana. Since he tried to cover it up with a pretty bullshit reason. Everyone else at least was pretty open that this was a RVS wagon


Siyrana it is.

VOTE: Syrana

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:21 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
Can I get some scum meta of you, ff?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:24 pm
by fferyllt
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24994

My first game here I was scum. The other players assumed I was inexperienced. I let them.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:27 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
Yeah but I know you're experienced so can you give me a non-newbie game (other site?)

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:31 pm
by fferyllt
No. If you need offsite meta to figure me out you might as well build that bandwagon.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:35 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
fferyllt wrote:No. If you need offsite meta to figure me out you might as well build that bandwagon.

This is your towniest post so far.

But you're still scum.

Ill post again when there's more info

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:37 pm
by fferyllt
Not scum. Sorry. I have faith that you'll figure it out.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:20 pm
by pitoli
fferyllt wrote:
orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
pitoli wrote:Oh hey there :3

Vote: Sotty

Wagon FF please

So this is not a random vote.

Why?


Why can't wagons be random?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:27 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
pitoli wrote:
fferyllt wrote:
orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
pitoli wrote:Oh hey there :3

Vote: Sotty

Wagon FF please

So this is not a random vote.

Why?


Why can't wagons be random?

you're kidding me.

VOTE: Pitoli

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:43 pm
by Deltabacon
Am I the only one who looks at the wagon on Syryana as being baseless and stupid? It was an RVS vote which Orcinus in particular has over-exaggerated.

VOTE: Orcinus

I'm not bothering with RVS. He's flopping on his scumreads, with votes that 'Are now serious' on an RVS vote to a vote on the person who questioned why wagons can't be random
referring to a wagon from the RANDOM vote stage.


Tryharding scum has been caught.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:47 pm
by buldermar
Checking in.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:27 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
Deltabacon wrote:Am I the only one who looks at the wagon on Syryana as being baseless and stupid? It was an RVS vote which Orcinus in particular has over-exaggerated.

VOTE: Orcinus

I'm not bothering with RVS. He's flopping on his scumreads, with votes that 'Are now serious' on an RVS vote to a vote on the person who questioned why wagons can't be random
referring to a wagon from the RANDOM vote stage.


Tryharding scum has been caught.

Nope.

VOTE: Deltabacon

Let's examine why all of the above is "shit".

Firstly, what wagon on Syryana? Two unrelated votes does not a wagon make.

Secondly, I don't see how I've over-exaggerated Syryana's vote. FF asked me a question. I threw out Syryana's name. FF then proceeded to vote Syryana.

I'm confused as to how I was supposed to build a valid scumcase on the bottom of page 1 with everyone but FF only giving 1 short RVS post, and FF asking me who on her wagon I think would be scum. So you need to elaborate on why this is scummy on my part.

I use my vote to try and get town out of RVS as fast as possible. Pitoli was not a scum vote, it was a reaction test, especially since I was getting bored of talking to FF. And I suppose there was a little bit of suspicion in Pitoli jumping in and not commenting on the interaction between me and FF at all. Pitoli's vanishing act is not what I was trying to achieve. You've misread Pitoli's post and the entire of the quoted portion in context. FF asked me why my FF wagon wasn't random, since I was calling for people to join it. Wagons can be random--just not this one.

And once again you've failed to prove why any of your reading comp failure makes me scum.

So what we have here in exhibit A is scum capitalizing on aggressive playstyle and trying to label that as suspicious. Devices used here include: Misrep (of Syryana votes), Misrep again (with scumreads), lack of evidence (everywhere), Misrep (Pitoli's post), nothing specifying why I'm scummy (everywhere), and aggressive cluelessness.

But thanks, keep trying. I appreciate the effort.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:38 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
Like I'm actually confused as to why I need to specify how bad Pitoli's post was. It added nothing to discussion, asked something that has already been established, and ignored the entire conversation beforehand.

But anyways. Hi buldemar.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:40 pm
by Deltabacon
Oh wow the derps on me - I thought the wagon on FF was on Syrana, then saw another vote for Syrana in post 29.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:44 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
Deltabacon wrote:Oh wow the derps on me - I thought the wagon on FF was on Syrana, then saw another vote for Syrana in post 29.

ok so what's your new verdict

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:17 pm
by Deltabacon
Well, after reading again I'd be up for an FF lynch, given that he's quite happy to allow you to pick his vote for him whilst town reading you with very weak reasoning which you have rebutted, and has been obstructive to the production of offsite meta, which whilst it could read as null, reads to me as scum deliberately impeding an investigation on them.

UNVOTE: Orcinus

VOTE: FF

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:20 am
by fferyllt
I've declined to provide links every time I've been asked at MS where I've played before. This time is no different.

I'm happy with my current read on orcinus. I agree with his assessment of the early votes on my wagon.

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:31 am
by Nero
vote Syryana

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:33 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
Nero wrote:
vote Syryana

Do you want to like just claim scum

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:34 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
UNVOTE:

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:35 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
Oh and ff refusing to offer offsite meta is townie, not scum. Jsyk.