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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:16 pm

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cropcircles wrote:However, if you can convince the rest of us that you are town
...? I don't follow.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:21 pm

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Something's either a tell or it isn't.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:23 pm

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Commodore Amazing wrote:
Claramata wrote:that did seem rather like a tell, didn't it?
That's a really strange thing to say, Claramata. Something's either a tell or it isn't. It looks to me like you didn't know if it was a tell or if it wasn't, but you decided to get on the bandwagon anyway.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:11 pm

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Hmm there's four votes on jentsu at the moment. I agree that she looks suspicious, but I think I'm going to hold off on voting at the moment because of that.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:13 pm

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Whoa, never mind, apparently I missed the second page :o.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:14 pm

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help im a bug wrote:Hmm there's four votes on jentsu at the moment. I agree that she looks suspicious, but I think I'm going to hold off on voting at the moment because of that.
Actually, there's three. I didn't think it'd be that hard to count.

Also, why is it when I'm town I look scummy? =\

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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:35 pm

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I have a feeling for something, but I'll keep it to myself in case I'm right.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:14 pm

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that's a new one for my collection of people who dont know how to spell my name.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:09 pm

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Haha this game is freaking me out.

I just caught myself thinking "Weird, no nightkills night 1."
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:14 am

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There really should have been a :wink: at the end of my "lynch clara right now" statement.

The point is, her blatant wagon vote, with "I suppose..." reasoning is also a tell. If Jentsu is mafia, though, then it is much more likley that Clara is town.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:23 pm

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cropcircles wrote:The point is, her blatant wagon vote, with "I suppose..." reasoning is also a tell. .
The "if x is town/mafia, then y is most likely mafia/town" line is something scum say a lot to try to set people up in definite relationships so they can attempt to lynch two town in succession.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:28 pm

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crop-O's wrote:Jentzu: I understand what you were saying. The tell is that you came out and declared yourself town. It's something mafia often do to look townie-ish.
Definately a tell, but claramata's wishy-washy sentiments is also a tell.

Shrug, they could be working together, we can't go wrong with voting either off, if one's mafia, the other's the second suspect. If one's townie, then the other is probably mafia.
Jentsu wrote:I don't declare myself town. I lay low, use very sound-sounding logic, and at a strategically crippling time for the town declare myself cop, leading people in like sheep.

Don't want to trust that? Check games I've been in, here, MiseTings, or wherever.
Given your claimed experience, you should've realized that Day 1, scum will use almost anything unrelated to them to start discussion. I declare poor play on your part if you're really a townie/pro-town.
Jentsu wrote:holy hell, four of six voting me?

back the fuck off, people.
It's only 4/6, You're one-vote from the edge, no point in getting so excited. It seems to me that we hit our mark exactly, and you're panicking.

I wont put the fifth vote on, because I want you to defend yourself and possibly make a claim if it helps your case.

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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:33 pm

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Vaughn wrote:
crop-O's wrote:Jentzu: I understand what you were saying. The tell is that you came out and declared yourself town. It's something mafia often do to look townie-ish.
Definately a tell, but claramata's wishy-washy sentiments is also a tell.

Shrug, they could be working together, we can't go wrong with voting either off, if one's mafia, the other's the second suspect. If one's townie, then the other is probably mafia.
No. Just. Fucking. No.

Though I'm really not sure why I'm defending her. =\ I always just have this problem with accusing other women, I guess.
Jentsu wrote:I don't declare myself town. I lay low, use very sound-sounding logic, and at a strategically crippling time for the town declare myself cop, leading people in like sheep.

Don't want to trust that? Check games I've been in, here, MiseTings, or wherever.
Given your claimed experience, you should've realized that Day 1, scum will use almost anything unrelated to them to start discussion. I declare poor play on your part if you're really a townie/pro-town.
I know, I suck as town. Thanks for rubbing it in.
Jentsu wrote:holy hell, four of six voting me?

back the fuck off, people.
It's only 4/6, You're one-vote from the edge, no point in getting so excited. It seems to me that we hit our mark exactly, and you're panicking.

I wont put the fifth vote on, because I want you to defend yourself and possibly make a claim if it helps your case.

FoS:Jentsu
It had better not get that far, or else you're all seriously fucking this up for the town.

Un. Fucking. Vote. Me.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:53 pm

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Hey Jentsu, Although I don't have a problem with your cursing, I think it'd be appropriate for the others if you toned it down a notch.

Secondly, Why should we unvote you? Your defense is "I suck, don't kill me". That's not good enough for us. If you suck, what's the point in keeping you around?
Jentsu wrote:... or else you're all seriously fucking this up for the town.
I've taken that as a pro-town claim, but with the theme of this game, the abilities are limitless, so It'd be prudent if you gave us a better defense.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:59 pm

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Vaughn wrote:Hey Jentsu, Although I don't have a problem with your cursing, I think it'd be appropriate for the others if you toned it down a notch.

Secondly, Why should we unvote you? Your defense is "I suck, don't kill me". That's not good enough for us. If you suck, what's the point in keeping you around?
Jentsu wrote:... or else you're all seriously fucking this up for the town.
I've taken that as a pro-town claim, but with the theme of this game, the abilities are limitless, so It'd be prudent if you gave us a better defense.
you total !@#$@!!@#$!#$!@#$!@#$!@$!@$!^^$!$!@#^%!#$$#^!$% with a spoon.

And sorry, it's just I get mad at stupidity. >.< Quite honestly, I find the actions of a fair number in this town stupid. Compounded on other problems in my life recently, it's not like I'm just all happy-happy joy-joy.

Why is it that people listen to me when they shouldn't and don't listen to me when they should? >.<
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:05 pm

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One of Life's mysteries: The difference from speaking, and being heard. XD
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:26 pm

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Vote Count


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1 elvis_knitts (help im a bug)

3 not voting


5 to lynch
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:43 pm

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Cut the insults and cut the cursing.

[quote="Jentsu"]The "if x is town/mafia, then y is most likely mafia/town" line is something scum say a lot to try to set people up in definite relationships so they can attempt to lynch two town in succession.[/Jentsu]
Accusing players of tells and not fosing or voting is another tell. Would you like to spew any more tells for us?
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:44 pm

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cropcircles wrote:Cut the insults and cut the cursing.
Jentsu wrote:The "if x is town/mafia, then y is most likely mafia/town" line is something scum say a lot to try to set people up in definite relationships so they can attempt to lynch two town in succession.
Accusing players of tells and not fosing or voting is another tell. Would you like to spew any more tells for us?
I hardly ever use FOS, and I don't feel like voting just for that.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:45 pm

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EBWOP: You should probably try checking for something called "playstyle" before you define what is a "tell" for a given person.

*insert insults and cursing everywhere*
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:04 pm

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unvote, vote: Commodore Amazing
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I have a couple of reasons behind this:
Commodore Amazing wrote:By the way, I don't think any of us have ever heard of the Lord of the Rings. And I definitely haven't heard of the main character, Aragorn. Or the fact that he was a Ranger of the North.
This post struck me as odd as soon as I saw it, but I refrained from OMGUSing. When I saw eleven people in the user list, I had no idea who the missing person was. I didn't memorize the list. Commodore Amazing, on the other hand, apparently had.

But you tend to remember the names of the people you target at night, now don't you. (subtle hint)

Then he jumps on the Jentsu bandwagon, but quickly jumps off to start one on a newbie.

Then there was this post (which addressed CA)--
Jentsu wrote:Yes I am.

I'd like to hear more opinions on what I'm posting, though.

Especially from the scum, obv, as opposed to the likely misguided townies such as you.
This post seems to me like an attempt to deflect suspicion off of Commodore Amazing.

Overall, my impression is that Jentsu and Commodore Amazing are trying to defend each other without making it look like that's what they're doing. I'm willing to vote for either one, but I think that the first quote, where he remembers ROTN's name off the top of his head, puts C.A. higher on my scumdar list.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:49 pm

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cropcircles - although you bring up some valid points, I really think CA's post about RotN was just to inform us. Maybe he was just excited about the game and noticed who was missing? It's too early and we simply don't have enough evidence to simply vote him off. Jentsu is still the most suspicious, but if Jentsu turns up clean, we can turn our sights on CA :wink:
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:36 am

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I have to say that I sort of agree with Jentsu that a number of people in this town are doing suspicious things.
cropcircles wrote:Cut the insults and cut the cursing.
Jentsu wrote:The "if x is town/mafia, then y is most likely mafia/town" line is something scum say a lot to try to set people up in definite relationships so they can attempt to lynch two town in succession.

Accusing players of tells and not fosing or voting is another tell. Would you like to spew any more tells for us?
Actually, I agree with both of you here :? I don't like when people try to set up a second lynch "in case" the first lynch turns out to be town. Seems like scum setting up one townie for another townie's lynch. But I also don't like when people are being aggressive without voting, as if they want to avoid responsibility.

Also, I think help im a bug's vote on CA is pretty bogus.
help im a bug wrote: When I saw eleven people in the user list, I had no idea who the missing person was. I didn't memorize the list. Commodore Amazing, on the other hand, apparently had.

But you tend to remember the names of the people you target at night, now don't you. (subtle hint)
I don't think you can say that CA knew the missing person was RangeroftheNorth because CA targetted him last night. You can find out the name of the missing player by checking the "Queue" thread and seeing who signed up for the game. I checked the Queue thread myself to see who the missing person was.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:23 am

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P.S. Vaughn just did the same thing about saying "if x is not mafia, let's lynch y!"
Vaughn wrote:cropcircles - although you bring up some valid points, I really think CA's post about RotN was just to inform us. Maybe he was just excited about the game and noticed who was missing? It's too early and we simply don't have enough evidence to simply vote him off. Jentsu is still the most suspicious, but if Jentsu turns up clean, we can turn our sights on CA :wink:
I don't see what your connection is between Jentsu and CA that would make you say, "if Jentsu is town, CA must be scum."
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:49 am

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Vaughn wrote:cropcircles - although you bring up some valid points, I really think CA's post about RotN was just to inform us. Maybe he was just excited about the game and noticed who was missing? It's too early and we simply don't have enough evidence to simply vote him off. Jentsu is still the most suspicious, but if Jentsu turns up clean, we can turn our sights on CA Wink
Actually, it was help im a bug who presented the case against CA. Funny you should confuse us.

I think CA's early comment does incriminate him. Just not enough for a vote. I also don't like accusing people based off the idea that another player is mafia before confirming that the other person actually is. If one turns up scum, then it's a point against the other, but only then.

I understand the tactic of setting up the lynch-after-next that scum so love. But I think it is a bit short sighted to apply that here. You can learn a lot from a wagon, especially the third and fourth votes. It is evidence depending on whether or not Jentsu is mafia and something to be considered. But no lynch will be based soley on this.
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