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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:29 am
by Formerfish
What's your case against me again? I looked back in the thread and can't seem to find one. So either come at me with some real accusations or continue to push what will become a mislynch.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:53 am
by Elyse
I'm liking my vote right now actually.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:32 am
by UberKang
In post 23, Formerfish wrote: Are you guys alright with someone going on lva but throwing down a vote first?
Yep. Note that mnemonic said he's on vacation and won't be able to post a lot, not that he won't be posting at all. Assuming he's back soon and/or manages to contribute whilst he's holidaying then who cares?

This wagon seems worthwhile. I will gladly join it.

VOTE: Formerfish L-2 I believe.

Also: Simple Plan, any reason you've just totally ignored the Formerfish wagon of glory?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:38 am
by Buffy vs Dracula
In post 25, Formerfish wrote:What's your case against me again? I looked back in the thread and can't seem to find one. So either come at me with some real accusations or continue to push what will become a mislynch.
Man, Fishy, there's no need to act so... fishy. Statistically speaking, these dissolve-y things that start at the start of the game tend to... fizzle. And over-reaction to early game wagons is indicative of fixation on how others view you, blah blah blah.

VOTE: Formerfish

Just kidding.

UNVOTE: Formerfish[/vote]

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:41 am
by Buffy vs Dracula
UNVOTE: Formerfish[/vote]

...oops.

Holy shit, talking in Buffy speak is so much fun. Dys, when you get here, make sure to talk with a Count von Count accent, alright? And sure all your smiley faces have little teeth like this, too. >:-E

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:41 am
by Kid A
the universe wants you to put formerfish at l-1

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:44 am
by Buffy vs Dracula
I'm not really big on that whole destiny thing, Kid.

UNVOTE: Formerfish

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:38 am
by Desperado
Unvote
Vote: Elyse


Fish doesn't seem worried about how he appears to others, he seems legitimately confused and exasperated by the wagon. And he's engaging people on his wagon individually and asking them to outline their thought process. Elyse's 26 is bad and her 13 looks like scum mimicing sland-town.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:48 am
by Elyse
No he's overreacting to a RVS wagon for no reason. Scum get especially antsy if they get votes on them.

And yes I was mimicking Slandaar. How is that alignment relevant?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:02 pm
by Desperado
I don't think he's overreacting at all. Which posts look antsy?

You were associating your play with Sland's so that when he flips town other players will instinctively give you towncred. Your post wasn't nearly as effective as his and felt awkward and unnecessary.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:19 pm
by Elyse
In post 20, Formerfish wrote:Wow, a quick 4 votes. Why's everyone cool with a wagon on me?
In post 23, Formerfish wrote:
In post 21, Elyse wrote:Because you're scum
You must be really good at this game if you could accurately deduce my alignment from my confirmation post. Or you're wrong. One seems more likely than the other.

Are you guys alright with someone going on lva but throwing down a vote first?
In post 25, Formerfish wrote:What's your case against me again? I looked back in the thread and can't seem to find one. So either come at me with some real accusations or continue to push what will become a mislynch.
These all look antsy.

And no, I'm not associating my play with Slandaar's at all. It's a joke. Do you have a townread on him from that? I didn't expect anything to come out of that post and was only doing it to mimic Slandaar. Seriously wtf are even getting it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:23 pm
by Desperado
Can you bold the anxiety or something? I'm not seeing it.

And what I'm getting it is you, as scum, saw slandaar, as town, post something self-evident but also entertaining and thought "Oh, I should do that too!" so we got your #13.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:25 pm
by Elyse
You're blind if you can't see it.

And your second assumption is just flat out wrong.

I, as town, saw Slandaar post something mildly funny, so I decided to play along. And if I was scum, I would have done the same thing. It's playing along with a joke, not me trying to align my play with Slandaar's.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:27 pm
by Desperado
I think you're seeing it because you want to see it.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:28 pm
by Elyse
No, since it looks like UberKang and Buffy v Dracula see it too.

If anyone is seeing things only because he wants to see them, it's you.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:37 pm
by Alexcellent
Hi all
I’m not liking formerfish’s reaction to his RVS wagon, but I don’t feel strongly enough about it to put him at L-1. Will post more after work.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:38 pm
by Desperado
UberKang doesn't reference Fish being antsy and BvD's comment seemed more theory based that situation specific.

What would you have done in his situation?

Deleted double post.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:41 pm
by Elyse
Nothing. I would have ignored the votes since it was obvious there was no reason for them and it's a freaking RVS wagon on page 2.

And oh look what Alexcellent says.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:42 pm
by Desperado
In post 42, Elyse wrote:Nothing. I would have ignored the votes since it was obvious there was no reason for them and it's a freaking RVS wagon on page 2.

And oh look what Alexcellent says.
OK. And you're an experienced player. Fish has one on-site completed game. His reaction is a newbtell and nothing more.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:48 pm
by Elyse
Scum newb.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:51 pm
by UberKang
Hey, no I don't see it. I was hoping to see it by putting more fuel on the fire. Agreed what we've seen is more newbtell than anything. And I doubt we'll get anything now.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:47 pm
by Formerfish
I have no problem with a couple votes on me during RVS, that's a part of the game. What I'm not a fan of is having 4 votes rung up on me within the first 10 posts of the actual game. A lynch only needs 7 votes right now, having 4 on me that quickly did have me a little uneasy.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:04 pm
by A Simple Plan
In post 27, UberKang wrote:
Also: Simple Plan, any reason you've just totally ignored the Formerfish wagon of glory?
I don't like the idea of wagon-ing someone to... What, L2 would it have been on page one of a thread. There wasnt enough time to get a solid read on anyone, at least for me, and seeing the wagon developing that fast, I'm going to be watching those four closely... Now, watching him react a bit more to the wagon, I think it looks rather suspicious. Not worthy of jumping on the wagon this quickly, but with a wagon filling so quick, I don't want to lynch immediately without getting a read on people first; these day one discussions are where my reads start to form, and a rapid wagon like that looks... Very intriguing.

Also making note for future reference that it has been six hours without a response from pdmedic after I voted him, and he never posted to confirm receiving a role either.

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:11 pm
by Buffy vs Dracula
In post 39, Elyse wrote:No, since it looks like UberKang and Buffy v Dracula see it too.
Nah. I'm seeing more of a Anti-Racism Dog thing here. You know, when someone makes a baseless allegation against you so you ask them for reasoning, at which point they just repeat the baseless allegation so you get even more frustrated?

Really, L, you should have just looked at Fishy's join date and realized he wasn't used to being put to L-2 one page into the game. You and I might have that experience, having played a bunch of games here and all, but he doesn't.

--Buffy

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:39 pm
by A Simple Plan
MOD:
I'm going to be away from early AM of Saturday, August 17 through to the PM of Sunday, August 18. It should not exceed 48 hours, but I wish to make it known prior in case I am not able to sign on Saturday morning before I leave so that I don't anger any fellow players/draw a prod for my absence. Thank You!