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In post 21, Humble Poirot wrote:You do realize that it would be just as easy to actually answer what will become self-evident instead of vaguely leaving the answers open for interpretation when it suits you?

Correct me if I'm wrong (what I infer from you):
1) By your vote an attitude, I guess you're not OK.
2) You refuse to say whether you or others will do this (Do you fear some kind of trap?).
3) I'd assume you will be.
4) Why not answer this? Why is it pointless? Can't I be the judge of that?

Also, why not tell me this when voting for me? Don't you think reasoning for votes will help us move along faster and give us something to talk about other than scumdays and RVS votes?

Do you intend to do any actual scumhunting/townhunting this game?

Really? I'd say that his vote and posterior "I don't care, I'll do what I want" is a good example of "not being OK with it".

I realize cryptic and confrontational when I see it so I'll just wait for more people to chip in.

I notice you haven't answered all my questions so, before I go to sleep, I'd like answer for this:

4) Why not answer this? Why is it pointless? Can't I be the judge of that?

and this:

Also, why not tell me this when voting for me?

It shouldn't be a problem since you appear quite economical with your words.

But seriously, of course. I am doing it right now. If you have any doubts about my own commitment, look at my past games. And if you want to see where I'm coming from about hydras look at the game I modded.

Now, having said that, I realize you quoted my answer to rail tracer, not the first post. So it seems like there's an implication what I'm doing is NOT actually hunting. If so... then Who IS? Are YOU?

In post 26, Humble Poirot wrote:@Sound of Silence: It should be self evident But seriously, of course. I am doing it right now. If you have any doubts about my own commitment, look at my past games. And if you want to see where I'm coming from about hydras look at the game I modded.

Link?

My wiki pages are up to date as far as completed games go, and the games which were played as a hydra are indicated. You should be able to ascertain my level of commitmnt to game when I play as a hydra.

Now, having said that, I realize you quoted my answer to rail tracer, not the first post. So it seems like there's an implication what I'm doing is NOT actually hunting. If so... then Who IS? Are YOU?

I believe I am. I'm concerned that a lot of noise about hydrae in the game will distract from focusing on the entire player list, and I see you as the source of a lot of noise about hydrae in the game.

In post 27, Sound of Silence wrote:I believe I am. I'm concerned that a lot of noise about hydrae in the game will distract from focusing on the entire player list, and I see you as the source of a lot of noise about hydrae in the game.

I agree. All that needs to be said is: "Hi, I'm HumblePoirot. To make things easier for me, I am going to treat each hydra as a single entity, regardless of the heads involved." End.

You don't need their approval to read them the way you want to read them. They don't need to tell you how they're going to use the hydra. It is meaningless fluff.

Your questions don't seem to benefit the town in any way and have almost no real usage, if any, in sorting out the hydras.

hp wrote:4) Why not answer this? Why is it pointless? Can't I be the judge of that?

if you explain to me why you think hydra players have some method to confer with their other head, why this method matters to you, and what you're hoping to learn from any answer that i give, then i will consider answering the question if i like your reasoning

hp wrote:Also, why not tell me this when voting for me?

~reasons~

sos wrote:I believe I am. I'm concerned that a lot of noise about hydrae in the game will distract from focusing on the entire player list, and I see you as the source of a lot of noise about hydrae in the game.

the second sentence is correct.

do you have any scum/town reads so far? weak or strong, i don't care.

is there a reason you're not voting?

In post 30, Rail Tracer wrote:the second sentence is correct.

do you have any scum/town reads so far? weak or strong, i don't care.

is there a reason you're not voting?

Brian Skies concerns me a little. He comes off rather agreeable. He's on my list to meta-check for completed MS games, but given his join date I don't expect to find any.

I don't usually vote during RVS phase. GiF, my partner, may put down an RVS vote. I prefer to just poke around, ask questions and interact until I have enough data to do some initial sorting.

Are you scum-reading Poirot?

I have been caught in the game of trying to hard to figure out who is the hydra and figuring who is saying what, fools game I say know though.

SOS, why mention Brian as strange if you are just going to poo poo his strangness right away?

@sos,

yes

but i'm thinking my issues could be more of a playstyle/personality thing than an alignment thing

his reaction to hydras looked over the top and fake. i understand that he linked some game with hydras that he modded and this was apparently bad for whatever reason, but it still looked fake, and i could see him using that as an excuse to berate hydras and pretend he's doing something. i also dislike the questions he asked because they serve no purpose in determining anything, and only add to my suspicion that he's trying to look like he's doing something when he's not actually doing anything

i don't see the issue with brian skies being 'agreeable'.

In post 32, FuDuzn wrote:I have been caught in the game of trying to hard to figure out who is the hydra and figuring who is saying what, fools game I say know though.

SOS, why mention Brian as strange if you are just going to poo poo his strangness right away?

Where did I poo poo his strangeness?

In post 33, Rail Tracer wrote:@sos,

yes

but i'm thinking my issues could be more of a playstyle/personality thing than an alignment thing

possibly.

his reaction to hydras looked over the top and fake. i understand that he linked some game with hydras that he modded and this was apparently bad for whatever reason, but it still looked fake, and i could see him using that as an excuse to berate hydras and pretend he's doing something. i also dislike the questions he asked because they serve no purpose in determining anything, and only add to my suspicion that he's trying to look like he's doing something when he's not actually doing anything

All true. I chose to indulge his questions (some of them, anyway) and see what that nets down the road.

i don't see the issue with brian skies being 'agreeable'.[/quote]

Welcome to feryland? It looked to me like he found something to agree about with every active player who has put down an opinion. I don't see him pushing interactions any further than that so far.

broken quote tag there in the 2nd to last line. :/

oh and forgot

omfg

omfg

i am so happy i have a valid reason to policy lynch saki before lylo

In post 31, Sound of Silence wrote:Brian Skies concerns me a little. He comes off rather agreeable.

This is only my second game, and my first dealing with hydras. I liked HP's logic in dealing with hydras, especially since there are so many of them (almost a quarter of the player base).

But I never said I liked his questions. They're pretty useless in my opinion and I don't see how they can help us scumhunt. After browsing other games, I feel like a lot of useless pages will be produced from arguing about them.

In post 33, Rail Tracer wrote:his reaction to hydras looked over the top and fake. i understand that he linked some game with hydras that he modded and this was apparently bad for whatever reason, but it still looked fake, and i could see him using that as an excuse to berate hydras and pretend he's doing something. i also dislike the questions he asked because they serve no purpose in determining anything, and only add to my suspicion that he's trying to look like he's doing something when he's not actually doing anything

I originally thought it was for self-gratification and an attempt at a townread. However, I like the logic in this post. I'll read through that link later.



Also, I may be a new player, but please don't treat me as one. I don't like crutches.

In post 37, Saki wrote:oh and forgot

Claim: PGO

What is this? And why are you claiming?

Well, I'll be reading through that link as soon as it's posted. =(

In post 38, Rail Tracer wrote:omfg

omfg

i am so happy i have a valid reason to policy lynch saki before lylo

*chuckles*
1 to 100. Credibility of my claim?

In post 39, Brian Skies wrote:

In post 31, Sound of Silence wrote:Brian Skies concerns me a little. He comes off rather agreeable.

This is only my second game, and my first dealing with hydras. I liked HP's logic in dealing with hydras, especially since there are so many of them (almost a quarter of the player base).

But I never said I liked his questions. They're pretty useless in my opinion and I don't see how they can help us scumhunt. After browsing other games, I feel like a lot of useless pages will be produced from arguing about them.

In post 33, Rail Tracer wrote:his reaction to hydras looked over the top and fake. i understand that he linked some game with hydras that he modded and this was apparently bad for whatever reason, but it still looked fake, and i could see him using that as an excuse to berate hydras and pretend he's doing something. i also dislike the questions he asked because they serve no purpose in determining anything, and only add to my suspicion that he's trying to look like he's doing something when he's not actually doing anything

I originally thought it was for self-gratification and an attempt at a townread. However, I like the logic in this post. I'll read through that link later.

UNVOTE: artemiskitty
VOTE: Humble Poirot

Also, I may be a new player, but please don't treat me as one. I don't like crutches.

Have you played mafia elsewhere?

brian wrote:What is this? And why are you claiming?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=PGO

brian wrote:Well, I'll be reading through that link as soon as it's posted. =(

oh right, he didn't link it, i just looked it up.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=17830

i'm guessing it has something to do with coolskins and something that hydra did at some point in the game, but i'm not sure what exactly.

saki wrote:Credibility of my claim?

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In post 14, Humble Poirot wrote:

@Hydras:

1) Are you ok with this?
2) Do any of you think they will do this?
3) Do you consider you'll be fully committed to the game despite having a fallback guy who can carry you even if you don't pay attention?
4) Do you have a regular mean to confer with your other head?

1) yes
2) definitely, it would be weird if we didn't disagree on some points.
3) I'll be committed.
4) working on it.

Stubbs

I played two games of mafia at a house party a few years ago. Although, my success as mafia in the first game got me mislynched early on in the second game. So I don't really count the second game very much (I stopped caring and didn't pay attention).

I watched a few games from Koibu on twitch.tv. Although, they rely a lot on meta, so unfamiliar players like me who aren't familiar with it and don't have the time to figure it out get lost easily. This is what made me want to play Mafia online. But, I don't like to list this as experience, just pure curiosity and entertainment.

The same day I signed up for this site, I signed up for Epic Mafia. I played that for a while before my first game, but haven't played much of it since. I'd consider myself a logical player. But since Epic Mafia players tend to rely on gut checks and bullshit scumtells with an extreme lack of information, I tend to get lynched a lot (as both town and mafia; fuck WIFOM, seriously).

Other than that, this is the second game I started.

In post 46, Brian Skies wrote:I played two games of mafia at a house party a few years ago. Although, my success as mafia in the first game got me mislynched early on in the second game. So I don't really count the second game very much (I stopped caring and didn't pay attention).

I watched a few games from Koibu on twitch.tv. Although, they rely a lot on meta, so unfamiliar players like me who aren't familiar with it and don't have the time to figure it out get lost easily. This is what made me want to play Mafia online. But, I don't like to list this as experience, just pure curiosity and entertainment.

The same day I signed up for this site, I signed up for Epic Mafia. I played that for a while before my first game, but haven't played much of it since. I'd consider myself a logical player. But since Epic Mafia players tend to rely on gut checks and bullshit scumtells with an extreme lack of information, I tend to get lynched a lot (as both town and mafia; fuck WIFOM, seriously).

Other than that, this is the second game I started.

Thanks. I'll keep this in mind.

Irrelevant: So, how do you all feel knowing you have a great opportunity in shaping (warping) my play style?

Just don't pick up any bad habits from Saki and you'll do fine in future games.

So mean to me

In post 48, Saki wrote:So mean to me

<3