Mini 438: Mutually Assured Destruction Mafia GAME OVER


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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:29 pm

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now a ranger wrote:
unvote, vote Anix
Let's trust the dice. =P
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:40 pm

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unvote,Vote:Anix
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:24 pm

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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
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I would like an explanation as to why milkman if he was a player would "have" to retaliate.
Simple. It makes no sense for Town to launch a random nuke day one. Therefore, anyone doing it is obviously scum. So you retaliate, which doesn't end the day, as opposed to lynching the random nuker, which = very short day.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:31 pm

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I think you are being overly optimistic on the "townies won't launch a random nuke" front.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:35 pm

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Well, it very much hurts the town. So we have to assume the person doing it is scum.

So, townies:
DO NOT LAUNCH RANDOM NUKES!
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:47 pm

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No I really don't think that's true. Townies do things that hurt the town, if you assume they're scum and kill them then
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are doing something that hurt the town.

Mind you we have two days after a nuke is launched to discuss whether retaliation is appropriate. We should probably have a vote on it or something.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:41 pm

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Jack wrote:No I really don't think that's true. Townies do things that hurt the town, if you assume they're scum and kill them then
you
are doing something that hurt the town.

Mind you we have two days after a nuke is launched to discuss whether retaliation is appropriate. We should probably have a vote on it or something.
If someone does something that's hugely to the Town's detriment, you have to assume they're scum. 'Trust the town.' Not doing so would allow the scum to do really scummy things then plead ignorance.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:08 pm

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Actually, I've played this game in the Marathon day, and CES's (town) opening move was to nuke another player. I'm still miffed to why he did it though...
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:23 pm

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Actually, scum tries to be more town than town usually, so some one nuking day 1 with no reason proves nothing.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:27 pm

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So how would you take it if you get nuked right now?
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 12:04 am

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Y wrote:Actually, scum tries to be more town than town usually, so some one nuking day 1 with no reason proves nothing.
Irrelevent. Random nuking is hugely to the town's detriment, so it ought to be made very clear that anyone doing it will instantly counternuked. That way, we make sure that any townie doing it would be a complete moron, and therefore deprive the scum of the ability to do it without giving themselves away.

You can't play under the assumption that the town might do humungously scummy things. imo. Gives scum too much leeway. Raffles' example proves the point- by random nuking day one, CES really hurt the town there, to the extent that Raffles is still annoyed about!

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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 12:47 am

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I don't think it would be in anyone's interest to Nuke at this point. It could be used at a later point far better than now and the danger of nuclear winter is too huge for anyone to risk. 'cept there is some guy who wins when nuclear winter arrives, but I doubt that.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 12:52 am

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I think it's probably safest to ignore the option of nukes for the time being. If anyone fires one I will consider it treason to the town. Where's BM I half expected a mad amount of OMGUS.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 9:23 am

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why would i OMGUS? i dont think anyone has voted for me (seriously)
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also, as a note, i think nukes will only be used by the side who are losing-as it ends the game in a draw. if the scum start look shaky, we may see nukes flying from them. if the town looks like it has no hope, i would expect them to start to launching some hopeful nukes. lol

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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 10:03 am

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In nuclear war all men are cremated equal

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VOTE COUNT:

4 Anlx (Theo, Jack, NAR, MOS)
2 The Fonz (Y, Pooky)
1 Jack (Battle Mage)

With 12 players alive, it is 7 to lynch.

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Mod note: If enough nuclear weapons are use to trigger nuclear winter, it will not cause a draw. It will cause everyone to lose. Very different thing.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 10:27 am

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Nonetheless, risking everyone losing beats your side certainly losing, no?
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 10:45 am

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Effectivement il fait!
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 11:09 am

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I take it MoS/BM show hasn't started yet...
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 11:16 am

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Est-ce que c'est le cas que vous avez un restriction vis-a-vis ce que vous pouvez ecrire, monsieur Sin?
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 11:46 am

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Parce-que, il est France? Francais a nukes...
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 1:07 pm

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Ahh did someone just nuke me in some alien language? You guys sound like E.T. I don't understand ahhhhh.

I obviously don't speak your mafia-language. Please speak in english, because I don't understand Mafia Accented English.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 1:10 pm

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The Fonz wrote:
Y wrote:Actually, scum tries to be more town than town usually, so some one nuking day 1 with no reason proves nothing.


If I'm nuked right now, I
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Personally, I don't like the tone of that. It sounds like you might be hiding something and showing fear from being nuked as well.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 1:11 pm

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What if a townie nukes you and thinks you're scum ( you might be scum ), and then you nuke him back? Two townies, dead in a jiffy.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 1:39 pm

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The Fonz wrote:Est-ce que c'est le cas que vous avez un restriction vis-a-vis ce que vous pouvez ecrire, monsieur Sin?
Translation (for those who are to lazy to look it up): It is that it is the case that has a restriction as opposed to which they can write, Mr.. Without
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Tue May 01, 2007 10:34 pm

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now a ranger wrote:What if a townie nukes you and thinks you're scum ( you might be scum ), and then you nuke him back? Two townies, dead in a jiffy.
A townie shouldn't be launching random nukes. Period. The fear of immediate retribution is the best way to prevent them.
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The Fonz wrote:Est-ce que c'est le cas que vous avez un restriction vis-a-vis ce que vous pouvez ecrire, monsieur Sin?
Translation (for those who are to lazy to look it up): It is that it is the case that has a restriction as opposed to which they can write, Mr.. Without
not as opposed, with regard to....
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