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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:01 pm
by tree
VOTE: notscience

*dance*

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:01 pm
by tree
2 votes now, hurry, hurry!

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:02 pm
by Micc
Votecount 1.01


notscience (3)
: The Bulge, Malakittens, tree
Malakittens (1)
: Bins
Bins (1)
: notscience
tree (1)
: Dr Pants

Not Voting (3)
: Maruchan, BlueBloodedToffee, InflatablePie

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch or No Lynch.


Deadline:
The deadline for Day 1 will be at 11:30 PM CST, which is in (expired on 2014-08-29 23:30:00).

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:08 pm
by InflatablePie
it's... not setup speculation though?

asking "am I doing the math right" in an open setup isn't setup spec. because
it's an open setup
.

vote: pants


I can see why someone would find my given comment scummy (dohoho look at Pie he's being obtuse about how the NKs work), but the shifty eyes comment paired with that reasoning just screams "scum using buzzwords" to me

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:12 pm
by Dr Pants
So you know why your comment was scummy, but you dislike how I said it because I used a "buzzword"

I like buzzwords

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:13 pm
by Dr Pants
here's the real question: why no RVS vote?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:30 pm
by InflatablePie
yes, I realized why my comment was scummy. do you find self-awareness scummy?

it's not how you said it, it's that you said something asinine. talking about Arsonist killing, vastly different from standard Mafia kills, doesn't postpone 'actual content', isn't it better that town is all on the same page as early as possible?

so yeah, using a buzzword/phrase like "setup speculation" in that context is scummy.

---

some games I care about RVS votes, other times I don't. either my vote is disregarded as RVS if people looking at my posts think I'm town, or they'll notice my lack of vote while accusing ns/Bulge if they're casing me or something. doesn't matter now, I have a fish I'm trying to reel in.

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:32 pm
by InflatablePie
also I find that scum like to hide in RVS, so I like targeting those making cheeky comments and such

hence why I said one of ns/Bulge is scum

since no one is discussing

I was just gonna wait and see if anyone else saw where I was coming from, but now I don't really care about those two unless you can convince me you're not scum

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:35 pm
by Bins
i don't see why you thought they both couldn't be, then?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:37 pm
by Dr Pants
k, I'll get on it

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pie
It completely baffles me that you understand why I would have a problem with what you said, but I call you out for it improperly so I'm scummy

And apparently you're looking for the same thing as me (people who hide in RVS), which is why you didn't vote in RVS and instead opted to talk numbers

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:38 pm
by notscience
Malakittens wrote:VOTE: Notty

BECAUSE YOU'RE AWESOME

OKAY?!?!


<3
Malakittens wrote:let's make this game quick and painless for the mafia, shall we folks..?


Is this a "fuck I drew scum get me out ASAP" claim Mala?

Bins wrote:
Dr Pants wrote:during RVS i find setup spec to be scummy, since it just delays the start of actual content


youre going to love ns


Everyone loves me <3

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:40 pm
by Bins
noot can you comment on anything other than yourself

:igmeou:

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:42 pm
by Bins
btw i think im addicted to changing my avi

other than that
back to meta-ing~

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:00 pm
by Malakittens
Yes

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:03 pm
by The Bulge
Pie and Pants both look town to me. Every point they call out against one another is a valid point that gets shot down by an equally valid explanation.

@Pie - I'm curious... did you get any results from your Bulge/ns reaction test?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:04 pm
by Bins
Malakittens wrote:Yes

The Bulge wrote:Pie and Pants both look town to me. Every point they call out against one another is a valid point that gets shot down by an equally valid explanation.

@Pie - I'm curious... did you get any results from your Bulge/ns reaction test?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:04 pm
by Bins
OOPS

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:05 pm
by Bins
i have no idea how i did that

this is too late for me

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:27 pm
by InflatablePie
Dr Pants wrote:k, I'll get on it

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Pie
It completely baffles me that you understand why I would have a problem with what you said, but I call you out for it improperly so I'm scummy

And apparently you're looking for the same thing as me (people who hide in RVS), which is why you didn't vote in RVS and instead opted to talk numbers


it's not just the fact that you used "setup spec", it's also the fact that the discussion I was trying to prompt
doesn't
postpone actual content, or whatever it was you said. it's actually pro-town to bring it up.

speaking of which, seriously, is my math right?

I'm not even going to enact the labor of explaining to you why your second 'point' is terrible.

The Bulge wrote:Pie and Pants both look town to me. Every point they call out against one another is a valid point that gets shot down by an equally valid explanation.

@Pie - I'm curious... did you get any results from your Bulge/ns reaction test?


valid point? all he did was FoS me and say he was suspicious because of setup spec. when I point this out, his reaction is to focus on "me improperly calling him out" on his phrase usage, when it's also the fact that the discussion was pro-town, plus with his earlier comment both posts just seemed artificial. and then his reaction is to vote me, which is equally dumb because his other point falls flat - I was incredibly transparent about why I didn't lay down an RVS vote.

his reaction to "so we're all on the same page here, we still have 3 MLs til a loss right?" is "THIS DISCUSSION IS SCUMMY, STOP IT NOW /crossvotes"

and no because no one discussed it and I'm a little preoccupied at the moment so I'm not sure I care about ns/Bulge. neither of you really commenting is a nulltell at best.

Bins wrote:i don't see why you thought they both couldn't be, then?


same manner of RVS cheekiness, fairly certain both scum wouldn't do that back-to-back.

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:31 pm
by InflatablePie
Bulge's post reads kind of oddly to me actually, right after I posted that

not sure if it's a playstyle thing and it's independent of Pants being scummy; don't think someone would react like that when I'm pressuring his buddy? especially deflecting onto himself? the last point is also valid in itself as well.

eh. I dunno. mental note for later I guess.

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:34 pm
by Bins
holy shit did i end up not making a post in the end

tldr - bulge you take that stance almost every scum game you've played
"this is tvt"
dude you ALYWAYS DSA SAY THAT

don't make me hate you so early

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:36 pm
by Bins
fuck ongoing games man forget i said almost every scum gagme

The Bulge wrote:Jake vs Nero strikes me, surprisingly enough, as Town vs Town.


evidence a - the only evidence i can legally give

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:39 pm
by Bins
idk about pie and perfect scum record guy

its hurting my brain rn so i'll relook at it in the morning

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:41 pm
by Dr Pants
InflatablePie wrote:
his reaction to "so we're all on the same page here, we still have 3 MLs til a loss right?" is "THIS DISCUSSION IS SCUMMY, STOP IT NOW /crossvotes"

This is stupid, and obviously not what my thought process was. Lets go over this:

1) you enter the game. you do not RVS vote, but do mention setup.
2) I give you the :igmeou: face
3) you ask why
4) I say, because you opened by mentioning setup
5) you say im scummy for using buzzwords, but claim to understand why your post is scummy

then other stuff

earlier, you said this:
InflatablePie wrote:also I find that scum like to hide in RVS, so I like targeting those making cheeky comments and such

This is basically why I found your opening post scummy. No RVS vote, and while setup discussion can have utility, ultimately it can not be used for scum hunting in anyway.

In answer to your question, I believe we should get at least 4 mislynches, since arsonists would be 1 kill behind since they cant choose a target and kill on the same night.

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:42 pm
by The Bulge
Bins wrote:holy shit did i end up not making a post in the end

tldr - bulge you take that stance almost every scum game you've played
"this is tvt"
dude you ALYWAYS DSA SAY THAT

don't make me hate you so early


I don't do indicative tells like that. I say things as scum that I would say as town. Something big like that I'm obviously self-aware of. Yea, I comment on TvT fights a lot. Why would I do that solely as one alignment?

That's why meta-tells are eh. Meta should be used for overall attitude, not for specific tendencies like that that are easily faked.