Mafiascum.net

↑ Trojan Horse wrote:I'm also not happy with SleepyKrew coming in and just saying "Greetings". That's not helping.

Are you freaking kidding me

↑ Malakittens wrote:

↑ Micc wrote:VOTE: JasonT

Sheeping Thor.

HYPE

This feels... so fake...

VOTE: Micc

Anyways, I am at work so I'll be back later!

What do you think of the Jason case?

I'm a little put of by the fact that Dragons is excited to play the game but isnt willing to help move us into the actual game.

↑ Save The Dragons wrote:

↑ Thor665 wrote:@Save - what part of his actions is protected by the "sanctity" of RVS?

Well, since you said this:

↑ Thor665 wrote:though it is spearheaded by a derp vote whom I would also be fine voting.

I'm not convinced you understand what RVS is.

Maybe you have confidence to sort through random clutter and solve the game from one post, I don't and I certainly don't believe anyone can. I don't see Jason's antics as increasing the probability he is scum.

Why not?
And, again, how are they protected by the "sanctity" of RVS?
If RVS is truly a phase here nothing can be attacked - why even have it?

Oh gawds, I'm going IC style on page 2. This wasn't what I signed up for.

↑ SleepyKrew wrote:

↑ Trojan Horse wrote:I'm also not happy with SleepyKrew coming in and just saying "Greetings". That's not helping.

Are you freaking kidding me

Do you think it was helping?
His stance seems logical.

::looked at STDs join date. Brain melts.::

↑ Thor665 wrote:Oh gawds, I'm going IC style on page 2. This wasn't what I signed up for.

↑ SleepyKrew wrote:

↑ Trojan Horse wrote:I'm also not happy with SleepyKrew coming in and just saying "Greetings". That's not helping.

Are you freaking kidding me

Do you think it was helping?
His stance seems logical.

I think it was doing absolutely nothing (though not participating in RVS certainly is a something kind of nothing).
I don't understand why he expected me to start helping in the third post of the game.

↑ SleepyKrew wrote:I think it was doing absolutely nothing (though not participating in RVS certainly is a something kind of nothing).
I don't understand why he expected me to start helping in the third post of the game.

Doing "absolutely nothing" is anti-town. Even in the third post of the game, you could've at least cast a vote. That would've helped.

How so?

Sleepykrew, you are being intentionally dense. You've been around long enough to know what people's issue is with posting without voting to start a game whether you agree with it or not.

SleepyKrew: you mean, how would casting a vote help? How else are we going to find the scum right now?

...

I haven't played in three years, so the meta has probably shifted since I last played. But I hope it hasn't shifted THAT much. I've seen scum caught on day 1 because they didn't aggressively scumhunt from the beginning. (It's happened to me before.) Have things changed?

Thor:

Do you typically imply people are stupid when they have a different opinion than you? Because I'm not really seeing why we aren't just having a fundamental difference of opinion here.

You seem to be misunderstanding me so I'll try again.

I am not jumping on your wagon cuz I disagree with it. Does that make more sense?

↑ Micc wrote:I'm a little put of by the fact that Dragons is excited to play the game but isnt willing to help move us into the actual game.

I don't see how I'm not. If I were to join on the jason wagon I would be dishonest. I have no reason to move my vote quite yet.

What I am doing is trying to figure out Thor, trying to figure out your motivation based on your blatant sheeping without your own commentary and your nitpick shots like the post quoted, and thinking about the sleepykrew wagon that formed from my die roll.

↑ Trojan Horse wrote:SleepyKrew: you mean, how would casting a vote help? How else are we going to find the scum right now?

...
Me RVSing would not help catch scum. If I random voted, it wouldn't have been for game-related reasons. I don't want to continue having a discussion about the merits of not participating in RVS. Ask your team about it. If you want to continue calling me scummy for not participating in RVS, ask your team again.

Since you conveniently ignore this:

↑ Save The Dragons wrote:I'm not saying it's impossible to get information from RVS, I'm saying I disagree with this assessment of Jason's post and the reason is I could easily ascribe it to a null tell of a person being goofy in RVS.

↑ Trojan Horse wrote:Doing "absolutely nothing" is anti-town. Even in the third post of the game, you could've at least cast a vote. That would've helped.

Kind of disagree with this. Again, I'm not so certain that people's actions in RVS can be so easily analyzed and sussed for alignment. Doing nothing in the third post of the game seems pretty harmless to me.

↑ Save The Dragons wrote:

Unvote

<3
Hey STD we haven't talked yet! I think your team is super duper cute. Do you think Trojan is scum, or just being dense?

Thanks! I think so too...especially that Cephrir guy : 3

I think your team is cool though your guys's name is a little weird.

I'm not really sure. I think people can get set in their ways. I think it's a weird thing to attack though.

Thor, I hate to repeat the point I brought up in 40, but do you realize you completely ignored the post that answered your question 24 just so you could harp on the fact I used the "sanctity" without definition? Is your intent to libel me?

It's like the Rockettes, but with penises instead because we're super gay (especially UT).

But how does someone get set in believing that everyone needs to participate in RVS otherwise how will we catch scum?

Sleepykrew, do you have any reads yet?

Nope.

One more post before work...

SleepyKrew wrote:But how does someone get set in believing that everyone needs to participate in RVS otherwise how will we catch scum?

Participating in RVS helps find scum. "Participating" could mean voting, or questioning other people, or whatever. Just saying "Greetings" is not participating.

↑ SleepyKrew wrote:

↑ Trojan Horse wrote:SleepyKrew: you mean, how would casting a vote help? How else are we going to find the scum right now?

...
Me RVSing would not help catch scum. If I random voted, it wouldn't have been for game-related reasons. I don't want to continue having a discussion about the merits of not participating in RVS. Ask your team about it. If you want to continue calling me scummy for not participating in RVS, ask your team again.

Okay fine, I'll mention it to my team.

At least you are around right now, and you are actually responding to people. So my vote stays on jason for now.

I don't really see any problem with SK not posting a vote in his first post. I don't think it is telling in any way of alignment.IF you are to reach, and I mean reallllllly reach it could be seen as a little cautious. But right now I do think Thor is maybe extremely trying to over justify things in his posts.

RVS is useful for reactions etc... but too much stock is being put on it right now.

↑ Micc wrote:I'm a little put of by the fact that Dragons is excited to play the game but isnt willing to help move us into the actual game.

To be fair here, what exactly have you done to move the game forward, you came in and instantly sheeped Thor and followed up with this.

↑ Malakittens wrote:

↑ Micc wrote:VOTE: JasonT

Sheeping Thor.

HYPE

This feels... so fake...

VOTE: Micc

Anyways, I am at work so I'll be back later!

What exactly feels fake?

↑ Trojan Horse wrote:

↑ SleepyKrew wrote:I think it was doing absolutely nothing (though not participating in RVS certainly is a something kind of nothing).
I don't understand why he expected me to start helping in the third post of the game.

Doing "absolutely nothing" is anti-town. Even in the third post of the game, you could've at least cast a vote. That would've helped.

I agree with you on this, but in the first few posts? Would it not be better to see down the line what he does instead of basing an entire case of him not posting a vote and just saying greetings?

I know things in RVS have little info to go on, but this is really stretching things.



However, I am inclined to ask, as I think the SK didn't post thing will go around in circles, SK.. out of the first few pages, and slight interactions everyone has had.

@SK - What has picked your interest right now? I think this should be a better line of questioning as to trying to over-justify his non vote greetings post. Instead of going around in circles, is there anything that has stood out since your 'greetings' post that you would like to comment on?

Right now Dragon is coming across as pretty much town to me. Good interactions and questioning so far. He is asking questions and trying to get answers - this is town.