NY 196 Mafia Thread

[Vedith]

Nah I'll do it during the night phase.
To be honest I get lazy on back tracking too much as scum, it's about living in the moment and all!

[Vedith]

Any advice though guys? I don't want to screw you guys up in anyway. What's our game plan here?

[Almost50]

So far we didn't have a plan. Just forgetting about who scum are and play as if you were scum hunting for real.

[Vedith]

I think you guys need to throw dirt at me and possibly vote.
When I'm at L1 I'll try and get out of it, but make sure you get some credit for my death if needed

[Airick10]

I might... I think the question is, would we actually hammer you? Talk about getting credit. In this large of a game, I don't like losing one of us D1.

I haven't said a word about you in the thread. It'd be kind of a drastic vote for me, but I could do it. Your thoughts?

[Vedith]

To be honest, hammering me will give high bonus.
When I am at L2 or what not I'll try and play a card to survive. If that fails then I say go all out.

[Airick10]

A50, Mir - Your thoughts? I'm not thrilled about killing one of our own, but it might be needed.

[Almost50]

How the freak are we going to adapt with the loss of our Neapolitan on the 1st day???

[Airick10]

Oh, I'm totally with you on that. But the evening didn't end well for Vedith and we have to start to plan for if he does to go L2 or worse.

I'm VERY curious on posts 2294, 2295, and 2296. Definitely sheep play going on. Call me crazy, maybe Dunn and Titus really are Masons?

[Almost50]

@Airick:

STAY ON IT. Don't jump off the wagon anytime soon. Nobody actually expects 2 scum of the same team to jump on the same person at the same time.

[Mirhawk]

goddammit.

At first I was just doing some mild lurking, but there's so much conversation I'm pretty much forever behind.

Even if I wanted cred for getting on your wagon I couldn't do it without looking scummy as hell while doing it.

I can't give a more useful opinion on the situation until I catch up.

[Airick10]

@A50

I was never on the Titus wagon. That's the issue. In fact, I've defended her fake claim a couple times. It'd be odd to just start attacking. Maybe I'm wrong?

Perhaps that something Mir can run with? I'm hoping for the town to lynch Titus while I'm defending her.

[Almost50]

@Mirhawk:

'sup, bro? You need to find some way to move your vote off shannon. The thing is it usually comes down to "who was avoiding all the major wagons" when they go back to VC analysis on D4 and later, and parking your vote on a vanity wagon won't help.

P-edit:

@Airick:

No you're doing great. Stay put on AGar. We "may" be able to push that wagon further if Boem doesn't oppose it much.

[Mirhawk]

I'm going to. It's just taken me forever to read the thread.

Pretty much what I'm going to do is break it down between who could have and couldn't have been scum in the masons. I'm going to hardcall Titus town off that due to it being a bad scum play (plus i think her wagon is going to fail anyway) the rest of them I'm going to cast mild doubt on. If I push any of them it'll be zach due to having a scumread on him earlier in the game, but that's unlikely.

You're right I want to get off Shannon. I'm not sure where to go though. I don't want to go to ved, but I need a convincing alternative. Sick is tempting, but he's a lurker so he's only acceptable as a desperation vote when justification isn't really nessicary. Maybe I will move to zach after all.

Podo pretty much saved the day for Ved. He's making such a big stink over Titus it pretty much killed the forward momentum on his wagon.

It should also be noted that since a neapolitan is really a type of cop, Ved has a claim that will probably save him from being lynched today.

I'm almost caught up, we'll see soon.

[Almost50]

Nice move, Vedith

[Airick10]

Yeah that helped, but geesh... if I wasn't on this team I'd go right after that post.

It clearly looks like you're desperately trying to sway to an AGad vote and considering all the false claims so far in this game... That have not been penalized by lynching... it's fair to believe you're trying the same tactic and seeing if you can get away with it. You basically say this outright when you're saying you're happy a second wagon is going through and would be open to voting AGad. It really looks desperate on your part (where I don't think you really need to be at this point).

I'm saying this because that's how I'd play it in the game as town and pick that post apart. Be prepared to defend, I'm not going to go after it... but someone else might.

I haven't really had to need to do it, since my case is on AGad. But if I had to, my case to defend you is that most of your voters are voting because they didn't like Nos's posts or they basically just say you're a shitty poster (whatever that means). You've been consistent on the Titus vote until you switched to Shannon, which was a valid vote change in my view. Why hasn't the town hammered on Shannon for that mod-prod kill action?? How have you really been scummy outside of people... just not liking you? Weird. This post actually can have some substance one way or another. I'm glad it's worked to our favor so far!

[Vedith]

It clearly looks like you're desperately trying to sway to an AGad vote and considering all the false claims so far in this game...

But that's why it's standard.
If I were town, I'm 100% sure I'm town.
I do not know Agar's alignment but there is 100% more chance of me lynching scum here.
This is how I would think as town align personally.

I also think because of my stance is the game, the post is going to be seen very mild.

I'm going to try and produce content through out the day, but not over do and see if I can fall under the radar a bit.

[Airick10]

Well yes, that's kind of the point of doing a soft claim like that. You're raising the stakes 'proving' you're 100% town. But it looks like it's paid off and heat is coming off you. Well done!

[Vedith]

This Shannon... I mean, who comes up with that kind of shit? lol!
At least she made me laugh for the first time this game.

[Airick10]

Wow that wagon formed FAST. I was out all last night and woke up to see this. So much for that soft claim... I'm a bit surprised

[Airick10]

Well boys, this is not a good turn of events. None of us were voting for Vedith and I suspect there will be some heat on those who did not vote for him. A 5 vote wagon to finish off Vedith at 1 AM sucks haha. Let's hope there's still going to be some heat on the final voters. I think our greatest advantage was that this town is in a tizzy right now and literally voted Vedith because they are tired of the game. That helps us.

Before last night, I was looking to put Dunn in jail (protect/roleblock). I suspected a power role because it baffles me why Titus would make that kind of a sacrifice to keep him alive. But wow, would a power role actually hammer like that? Maybe Titus is right, he is dumb town. I wanted to keep Titus and Dunn alive because I think they were obvious targets for D2, and I think they knew it. Now because they wagoned Vedith off... AND IT WORKED... the town may view them more favorably.

Not sure who to kill or block now. It's hard to guess how the town will react the this successful vote switch, let alone who we kill. I'll think it over a bit more. A50, Mir... your thoughts?

[Almost50]

Jail Dunn. I get the feeling he's trolling and is in fact either BP trying to draw a NK OR an investigator trying to look like he doesn't care.

As for the NK, one of the town leaders who were opposed to the AGar lynch. hmmm.. Boem or Zach maybe?

[Airick10]

See, I read investigator/cop on him as well... but would an investigator hammer like that (even if he didn't know)? I fear the town will now absolutely believe the Titus/Dunn town pairing.

As far as your opinion, you're looking to get the town to focus on AGar again as if he wants to NK Boem or Zach? I'm not so sure AGar will be on the hot seat so much D2 as the town appears to like his last couple posts. But that is certainly a way we can go.

I'm leaning on either Varsoon or Lapsa.
Lapsa -> Openly attacking Titus. There's been talk of a Mirhawk/Lapsa scum link... would Mirhawk be that dumb to NK the one he's "partnered" with? And Lapsa really hasn't contributed much... so not much info for them to work with
Varsoon -> Also attacks Titus and Dunn. I did not see Varsoon actually admit he's not a mason, so that'd be a bonus kill. And again, he's been away so it leaves a bit more mystery.

I think Zach can be a target for D2 town lynch... as someone who has been on Verdith, not part of the wagon.... why is he so angry about the Vedith lynch? He should be happy the town voted with him. He seems upset and it looks like he's scum that is shocked the town actually voted his partner off so quick. Scum reaction if you ask me. But he had no final votes in D1 and could we count on the town to lynch him? Dunno...

I also think a Performer NK is possible too. I think he's shown the most town favorable posts in the game. I highly doubt we can count on the town to lynch him.

[Almost50]

No, my pick to on Boem/Zach was merely bc they COULD stop a mislynch. I wasn't going to go after AGar anymore.

Hmmm.. the Lapsa NK is also good, but not Varsoon. IF Varsoon is masons with Zach that would be confirming Zach rather than implicating him.

Performer is on to me, and killing him may put me under scrutiny, and I "think" I look the townier of us 3 right now. I don't usually kill those who directly FoS me unless I find a good argument why I would not have done it (WIFOM).

Also, should Mirhawk use one of his 2-shot commuter ability?? We don't know who IS a Cop, so we don't know how high/low he is on their list!!!

[Mirhawk]

Yeah I dunno about the commuter. I'm under suspect by performer and Dunn, I think it's possible performer is a pr but Dunn seems unlikely.
Still I'm thinking maybe the commute is a good idea tonight anyways as my opinion on the ved wagon was that I didn't like it but would do it if I had to. Which is honestly kinda scummy with the flip.

The instahammer is fucking horrible for us, a neapolitan claim probably would have saved him.

I think we should kill Lapsa, his demeanor makes me kinda think he's a pr of some sort and he's had all of us in his scum pool at some point in the day. Also killing him makes Titus look a little worse.