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In post 23, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 21, Theta Alpine wrote:hey all

VOTE: beefster

you are at least supposed to have a reason in rvs
at least i think so

why would it be random voting then?

I played with Thor recently and he said RVS is really Low information voting stage rather than purely random

So his idea was no one is “truly” random, as in roll the dice and vote where it lands - most people pick some kind of bizarre reason to put whatever vote they choose

So in line with that principle, if gamma doesn’t want to play for an IRL day, let’s find out what he’s up to

VOTE: RedFlavor

Two flavors?!?!?!?!?!?

In post 19, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm gonna try something: for this I'm gonna lurk out the first irl day or so

Imma make this short and simple.

I'm in a neighborhood with Gamma Emerald. I'm an ascetic miller also. No other info will be given.

In post 25, profii wrote:

In post 23, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 21, Theta Alpine wrote:hey all

VOTE: beefster

you are at least supposed to have a reason in rvs
at least i think so

why would it be random voting then?

I played with Thor recently and he said RVS is really Low information voting stage rather than purely random

So his idea was no one is “truly” random, as in roll the dice and vote where it lands - most people pick some kind of bizarre reason to put whatever vote they choose

So in line with that principle, if gamma doesn’t want to play for an IRL day, let’s find out what he’s up to

In post 3, TwoInAMillion wrote:First post
VOTE: Egg

so did ^ this vote have a reason then?

In post 25, profii wrote: I played with Thor recently and he said RVS is really Low information voting stage rather than purely random

So his idea was no one is “truly” random, as in roll the dice and vote where it lands - most people pick some kind of bizarre reason to put whatever vote they choose

In post 3, TwoInAMillion wrote:First post
VOTE: Egg

so did ^ this vote have a reason then?

huh, I thought I hit preview, not submit.

Let me just check my crystal ball and get back to you...

In post 27, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 19, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm gonna try something: for this I'm gonna lurk out the first irl day or so

Imma make this short and simple.

I'm in a neighborhood with Gamma Emerald. I'm an ascetic miller also. No other info will be given.

Ascetic Miller. That's... Interesting.

So if I'm reading this right and not mixing up terms, you're claiming to come up guilty to investigations, and that anyone who visits you will be roleblocked (Including investigators) you are sharing a chat with someone.

So... Why shouldn't I think you're mafia here?
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

In post 32, Nictis wrote:So... Why shouldn't I think you're mafia here?

ascetic miller seems a bit overkill for a fakeclaim doesn't it? Especially one that's not in response to anything in particular.

In post 33, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 32, Nictis wrote:So... Why shouldn't I think you're mafia here?

ascetic miller seems a bit overkill for a fakeclaim doesn't it? Especially one that's not in response to anything in particular.

This claim in general is leaving me baffled, I can only think of two possible reasons for it, one of which requires him to be a fool and the other is too convoluted. It doesn't make sense him to make such a... contradictory claim, especially given that there was no attention on him. So it gives me a pretty bad vibe, and has me frowning at him outing his buddy like that.

I completely failed to respond to that post. Ascetic Miller isn't overkill for a fakeclaim, it's just wrong. "You can't visit me but if you could I would come up as scum," doesn't make sense.

In post 35, Nictis wrote:I completely failed to respond to that post. Ascetic Miller isn't overkill for a fakeclaim, it's just wrong. "You can't visit me but if you could I would come up as scum," doesn't make sense.

Just because it's redundant doesn't make it wrong. Mods make shit like that all the time just to make a role hard to claim outright. He also hasn't fully expanded on the nature of his role. It could be an X-shot ascetic miller. Or ascetic comes with some heavy asterisks. Or he's just paraphrasing his role name. There's a lot of possibilities.

In post 34, Nictis wrote:

In post 33, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 32, Nictis wrote:So... Why shouldn't I think you're mafia here?

ascetic miller seems a bit overkill for a fakeclaim doesn't it? Especially one that's not in response to anything in particular.

This claim in general is leaving me baffled, I can only think of two possible reasons for it, one of which requires him to be a fool and the other is too convoluted. It doesn't make sense him to make such a... contradictory claim, especially given that there was no attention on him. So it gives me a pretty bad vibe, and has me frowning at him outing his buddy like that.

if you don't see why he would make it as a fake claim, why are you voting him for it?

Am I misunderstanding how Miller and Ascetic works?

If you are a miller the point if you are copped you come up scum
If you are ascetic then the cop action would fail

So why make a role that’s entire point is to investigate-flip scum immune to investigations?

This could entirely be my lack of experience with roles on this site

In post 36, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 35, Nictis wrote:I completely failed to respond to that post. Ascetic Miller isn't overkill for a fakeclaim, it's just wrong. "You can't visit me but if you could I would come up as scum," doesn't make sense.

Just because it's redundant doesn't make it wrong. Mods make shit like that all the time just to make a role hard to claim outright. He also hasn't fully expanded on the nature of his role. It could be an X-shot ascetic miller. Or ascetic comes with some heavy asterisks. Or he's just paraphrasing his role name. There's a lot of possibilities.

Fake p edit

Gotcha

i have something to say but i'm waiting to say it.

In post 40, northsidegal wrote:i have something to say but i'm waiting to say it.

You are romantically involved with one of the other players in the game?

In post 36, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 35, Nictis wrote:I completely failed to respond to that post. Ascetic Miller isn't overkill for a fakeclaim, it's just wrong. "You can't visit me but if you could I would come up as scum," doesn't make sense.

Just because it's redundant doesn't make it wrong. Mods make shit like that all the time just to make a role hard to claim outright. He also hasn't fully expanded on the nature of his role. It could be an X-shot ascetic miller. Or ascetic comes with some heavy asterisks. Or he's just paraphrasing his role name. There's a lot of possibilities.

I'll be honest, I had to visit the wiki to remember what Ascetic was. A 'Reflexive' role doesn't seem like one that is an X-Shot thing.
It could be that Assembler did something like that, but why? The only valuable use I can see Town having for an X-Shot weak Commuter (Which is what it would be functionally) is to prevent scum Roleblocking a different ability that he can use. He can dodge being roleblocked, healed, watched, or investigated, but not killed. We can't track him to see if he kills someone, we can't heal him after he turned himself into a target, we can't watch his house for the killer, we can't investigate him (And if we could we'd get a guilty result?)

It being something hard to claim doesn't seem right either, if it's just redundant then why even bring up that he's a Miller? Stick with Ascetic and you're good.

If we can't verify anything about him, or protect him, why keep him around? If he shows himself to be Town then we can trust Gamma to a point. If he shows himself to be something else then we have another person to look at that he volunteered.


He claimed Miller, which is something that I personally raise my eyebrow towards. In addition to claiming Miller, he claimed that visiting him is pointless, and has said he's sharing a chat. All of these are ticking boxes in my head that yell 'SCUM.'
Comes up guilty to investigation: Check
Collusion with another player: Check
Tells Town not to visit them: Check

It could be that his role is strange, that there's a reason I can't think of, or that he's bold scum. I just know that the claim itself doesn't make sense at face value, and that it's easier for me to assign scum reasoning to it than a possible Town role.

A couple reasons for my vote I suppose.

I don't believe that Flavor Leaf is a Town Ascetic Miller Neighbor. Please don't fakeclaim.

VOTE: Vote: Flavor Leaf

Would mafia claim something like this this early?

In post 44, TwoInAMillion wrote:I don't believe that Flavor Leaf is a Town Ascetic Miller Neighbor. Please don't fakeclaim.

VOTE: Vote: Flavor Leaf

Why do you think that he is fakeclaiming?

Mafia only has daychat if they have encryptor, right?

lmao. y'all never played with boon yet have you?

wait for his 5th or 6th claim before you jump on his back.

In post 45, RedFlavor wrote:Would mafia claim something like this this early?

Looks like they had a cleaner gambit in mind than what they attempted