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In post 6, the worst wrote:hardclaim miller

VOTE: Camn Pine
great vote

It also occurs to me that anyone who immediately votes for a pair that doesn't include themself is suspect. I know my position is that fully HALF of you are scum, so there's something in the neighborhood of a 75-80% chance that any random two contains scum (I don't remember how to do permutations, gimme a break on the math)

every nom apart from mine so far has contained Pine. this makes me think Pine is scum.

I don't think so. I think it may just be the way he's looking towny. I'd think your conclusion implies the players nomming him are scum too, but you just nommed the worst who is one of them. You think tw is town?

In post 15, camn wrote:Okay, okay....I'm getting it.

So if pine and I go.....and the thing gets sabatoged....then we know pine is definitely scum....and we don't send him on any more missions?
But if we pull it off, we are both conftown?

Sounds good.
VOTE: camn, Pine

I don't think this is quite how it works. Like obviously your first conclusion only works from your point of view considering to everyone else it could be either or both of you, and the second one assumes that spies will always sabotage.

Pine wrote:Yeah I could go on a mission with Alibae. E was first to suggest Pine/Camn, so I'm not worried about oportunism. The worst is on my watchlist though.

What do you mean by opportunism?


VOTE: nancy, Pine

most of the nominations came before Pine had made a single post- I don't see why you think that it has much to do with his towniness. And considering that most people have nommed Pine, I don't think that it makes someone scum to nominate Pine, although I do think scum have nominated pine.

Well, given that the only people who haven't nommed me are you and the girl who hasn't posted yet (nancy) I have to wonder what your concern is. There aren't five scum.

Remember they don't need to have two spies on the roster. I'm more concerned with who people want to pair me with.

yes, not all the people nomming you are scum, but I know at least two are, and that makes me dubious of your alignment.

In post 28, Ausuka wrote:most of the nominations came before Pine had made a single post- I don't see why you think that it has much to do with his towniness.

True. I didn't check the timeline for that.

Why do you think tw is town?

I don't really have a read on tw. If I had a townread I would have nommed them.

In post 32, Keychain wrote:

@Mod: It's not listed in the VC but four players voting for a pair is majority right?

Yes.

I do also want to point out I had plenty of opportunity to hammer Camn/Pine.

You did, and that wouldn't have even been suspicious considering sending yourself is one guaranteed known.

In post 33, Ausuka wrote:I don't really have a read on tw. If I had a townread I would have nommed them.

Uh, you did, that's why I'm asking.

In post 22, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: the worst, ausuka

Mathdino wrote:

THE WORST, AUSUKA (1)

: Ausuka

You nommed them and yourself, suggesting they were your strongest townread, and they had posted by then I'm pretty sure. Am I missing something?

I had no townreads at that point.

That's dissatisfying. I have no townreads apart from Pine, so I nommed a total unknown instead. You picked someone who had posted.

In post 35, Pine wrote:I do also want to point out I had plenty of opportunity to hammer Camn/Pine.

In post 36, Keychain wrote:You did, and that wouldn't have even been suspicious considering sending yourself is one guaranteed known.

The fact that you want to point that out is kind of itching though.

Literally can't think of an advantage to scum sabotaging the first mission. It gives a 33/33/33 on 1-2 baddies which is just daft.

Pine is townie

In post 25, Pine wrote:

In post 6, the worst wrote:hardclaim miller

VOTE: Camn Pine
great vote

It also occurs to me that anyone who immediately votes for a pair that doesn't include themself is suspect. I know my position is that fully HALF of you are scum, so there's something in the neighborhood of a 75-80% chance that any random two contains scum (I don't remember how to do permutations, gimme a break on the math)

I thought this originally but I got totally played by scum last time I.played this by being involved in the first two missions X_X

We sent me+1 scum then me+2, it was awful because then I had to pay attention

Also, UNVOTE:

^nope

One down

In post 27, Keychain wrote:second one assumes that spies will always sabotage

Aaaah you are right. I didn't consider that.

Well then I agree with whoever said- the scums would avoid the sabatoge Day 1, cuz 50/50.

That said......IF THERE WERE a sabatoge day 1...I conclude it would be because BOTH players are scum...andcount avoid the deed....and they are both blacklisted for the rest of the game.

Which means we should be voting scumreads day 1, not townreads.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: the Worst, ENAC EDDIE

Ha ha wait that's not it either!
I misread. I thought it would get sabatoge automatically if both players were scum....but that's just cuz I'm illiterate.

VOTE: pine, nancy

And I think I am on board with the rules finally.

Scums = enoceddie and the worst for voting someone other than themselves when no one had poted yet.
+ One other TBD. Probably keychain.

Thanks Camn.

towns us / pine / key / x
scums nancy / camn / x

ausuka and tw FIGHT

Ow. My eyerolling muscle is sprained now.

I can get you some ice if you'd like, there's plenty outside

camn, if you're town, you'll make me realise it eventually right?

Now that I think about it, the exact players on the first mission don't seem to matter a whole lot.

In post 31, Mathdino wrote:PINE, ENAC EIDDE (2): ENAC EIDDE, Pine

I don't know if the composition of this wagon makes me trust it more or less lol but Eddie/Alisae may be better to send than nancy.

VOTE: ENAC EIDDE, Pine