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Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:17 pm**

In post 24, Eddie Cane wrote:why are yall so serious this is a meme game lol

Hardplaying your win condition and playing dumb won't work here!!! We all know wassup with you!

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:20 pm**

ari was obv town

then cheeky shot them

ergo, cheeky is scum

taly ignored that and attacked me

ergo, taly is the partner

sando hard buddied taly

ergo, sando is part of a different scum team

ive caught most of the scum and its page 2 what are the rest of you doing for your win conditions

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:21 pm**

In post 24, Eddie Cane wrote:meme game

(i'll contribute for real later when i have any idea what is going on)

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:21 pm**

Ahhhh, the first-post shoot as a reaction test gambit...it's a bold strategy cotton, let's see how that works out for them.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:22 pm**

In post 26, Eddie Cane wrote:ari was obv town

then cheeky shot them

ergo, cheeky is scum

taly ignored that and attacked me

ergo, taly is the partner

sando hard buddied taly

ergo, sando is part of a different scum team

ive caught most of the scum and its page 2 what are the rest of you doing for your win conditions

Your reads are always horrible.

shoot: cheecky

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:22 pm**

In post 18, Sando wrote:
In post 16, Taly wrote:To avoid mindless killing that really does not serve anything but to create WIFOM; I suggest we all vote normally as if we were to lynch people.
Using your shot early means you're no longer a threat that day and thus not going to get shot, given there's no alliances set up yet.

That said, anyone who shoots Taly gets shot by me, so yeah you'd best shoot me first peeps.

I don't see the point in alliances because I don't think there's any 3p in the setup. Townblocs are a more effective approach here.

And having a shot doesn't mean you're a threat; as long as you're actually devoting a reason behind your shot and not doing it for shits and giggles.

In post 20, Vaxkiller wrote:But i so want to shoot taly for the lulz

Shooting me is just going to lower the threshold of town deaths that scum needs to win.

If you want to get the ball rolling, put up a vote or reads.

P-Edit

Sando wrote:@Taly, let's make a townbloc mmmk.

You state you'll shoot anyone that shoots me, I've stated I'm shooting your shooter. As people join townbloc we create a circle of protection via mutually assured destruction. People without a shot left can't join, since they can't "protect" anyone else.

Keen?

Let me make sure of how this plays out-

We protect each other by shooting who shoots us.
People who don't join the townbloc and wavelength with the protection won't be apart of this.

My biggest worry is, how would we have a strong idea someone is town who assures protection/a shot against a shooter? It's a bit early to form reads.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:23 pm**

@Taly:

Click Preview. Find the countdown button and click it. Put the deadline in the form yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:25 pm**

@Taly:

In post 1, xyzzy wrote:if one week passes without any kills, the day will end.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:28 pm**

In post 30, Taly wrote:Let me make sure of how this plays out-

We protect each other by shooting who shoots us.
People who don't join the townbloc and wavelength with the protection won't be apart of this.

My biggest worry is, how would we have a strong idea someone is town who assures protection/a shot against a shooter? It's a bit early to form reads.

Townbloc is sort of a misnomer, more a non-shooty-bloc.

Step 1: Person A says they'll shoot anyone who shoots person B. Person B says they'll shoot whoever shoots person A. Thus anyone wanting to shoot A or B gets shot themselves.
Step 2: Person C wants to join. A shoots anyone shooting B, B shoots anyone shooting C, C shoots anyone shooting A. Thus you have circular protection.
Step 3: Keep extending this out as people join.

If we decide that someone in the bloc needs to die, we just nominate someone to shoot them, I'll take that as first responsibility if required.

That said, I think this would work if we just all said "we'll shoot anyone that shoots into the bloc" without the whole circle thing, but I'm just spitballing at this point.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:29 pm**

In post 26, Eddie Cane wrote:ari was obv town

then cheeky shot them

ergo, cheeky is scum

taly ignored that and attacked me

ergo, taly is the partner

sando hard buddied taly

ergo, sando is part of a different scum team

ive caught most of the scum and its page 2 what are the rest of you doing for your win conditions

Reread my first post. I posed the same question to

Cheeky

about his shot. I voted to see your reaction and I think that scum would be very quick to shoot in this game. You don't seem to be taking this seriously that much, and building associatives/dichotomies are not helping.

Almost50 wrote:@Taly:

In post 1, xyzzy wrote:if one week passes without any kills, the day will end.

oh

5 days then? That'll less likely prevent people getting bored and fruitless discussion to commence.

Also, do you have any thoughts regarding the posting playerlist so far?

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:29 pm**

So wait is Taly trying to recreate the breaking strategy that destroyed that other game with lots of dayvigs?

Because I had been wondering what exactly was stopping us all from just. doing that again.

... It is

something

stopping us, right?

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:30 pm**

wait no Taly's doing the polar opposite of that thing.

... Look. I'm sleep-deprived.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:32 pm**

Srceenplay it goes kill: CheekyTeeky. Sorry Ari, I thought you were wolfy.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:34 pm**

In post 34, Taly wrote:Also, do you have any thoughts regarding the posting playerlist so far?

Not yet. All I have is contradicting possibilities/theories, so I'm staying put. You're doing great with the idea of voting instead of shooting though.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:35 pm**

33

Circular protection might be easier to document moreso than votes, but I still want people pushing their town and scumreads as if we were thinking about someone to lynch.

That'll keep town in cohesion.

Sando

strikes me as town, this is a bit weak but it's based off first impressions. He's engaging constructively, and while I'm still pondering the circular protection strategy, I do not want him to be shot.

36

I'm trying to prevent people from daykilling without thinking. I don't see how that benefits town.

Almost50 wrote:
In post 34, Taly wrote:Also, do you have any thoughts regarding the posting playerlist so far?
Not yet. All I have is contradicting possibilities/theories, so I'm staying put. You're doing great with the idea of voting instead of shooting though.

:/ I just wished people were actually voting though. At least to entertain how effective this strategy is, because I think it's very valid.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:35 pm**

In post 1, xyzzy wrote:each day, each player may write shoot: playername, and the named player will die.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:36 pm**

In post 35, wingedcatgirl wrote:So wait is Taly trying to recreate the breaking strategy that destroyed that other game with lots of dayvigs?

Because I had been wondering what exactly was stopping us all from just. doing that again.

... It is
something
stopping us, right?

the reason the strategy would not work is mentioned in the rules actually

because apparently some of us have bulletproof which would throw that strategy off

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:36 pm**

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:36 pm**

In post 35, wingedcatgirl wrote:Because I had been wondering what exactly was stopping us all from just. doing that again.

... It is something stopping us, right?

Scum presumably have their own dayshots, so if we did it we're just guessing that town has more vests/better strongman than scum.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:36 pm**

In post 39, Taly wrote:I just wished people were actually voting though. At least to entertain how effective this strategy is, because I think it's very valid.

You have to thin out the crowd first.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:38 pm**

In post 39, Taly wrote:Circular protection might be easier to document moreso than votes, but I still want people pushing their town and scumreads as if we were thinking about someone to lynch.

Votes is fine to scumhunt, the protection strategy is just to impose some controls on the randomness, it has nothing to do with scum vs town, other than town preferring order while scum prefer chaos.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:38 pm**

Oh Cheeky got shot.

Srceen can be town, then.

UNVOTE: CheekyTeeky
VOTE: Sando

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:39 pm**

In post 43, Sando wrote:
In post 35, wingedcatgirl wrote:Because I had been wondering what exactly was stopping us all from just. doing that again.

... It is something stopping us, right?
Scum presumably have their own dayshots, so if we did it we're just guessing that town has more vests/better strongman than scum.

oh yeah that too

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:40 pm**

In post 33, Sando wrote:That said, I think this would work if we just all said "we'll shoot anyone that shoots into the bloc" without the whole circle thing, but I'm just spitballing at this point.

I endorse this variant of the pacifistbloc by virtue of being much easier to set up. Since simultaneous shots aren't a thing I think there's no downside?

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 3:41 pm**

OK..

VOTE: the worst

This vote is totally RVS by intention. TW hasn't even posted, so I can't really have a read on him.

As for the RVS reason.. erm.. it's duck hunting season

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