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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:26 pm

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Forgot to add that this Mafia Discussion thread has an assortment of stats that have been compiled since 2d3 became the official newbie setup. I don’t think the sample size is quite there for anything interesting to actually be statistically significant at this point.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:35 pm

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Thanks for the response. Yeah, 12 not 9 setups, my bad. The stats thread is intriguing; will be interesting to see if anything changes with additional data.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:34 pm

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LynchingWith 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:06 am

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When did FF start using the word cheeky??
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:06 am

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In post 26, GrandWazoo wrote:Thanks for the response. Yeah, 12 not 9 setups, my bad. The stats thread is intriguing; will be interesting to see if anything changes with additional data.
Things will almost certainly change over time. For example, town win rates for C2 and C2 have a hilariously large gap for how similar the setups are.

My question for you is: How are you intending to apply these theory discussions in a way that helps you win this game?
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:07 am

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whoops. that should read C1 and C2.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:45 am

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In post 29, Micc wrote:
In post 26, GrandWazoo wrote:My question for you is: How are you intending to apply these theory discussions in a way that helps you win this game?
I don't know atm but this is my first MS game and haven't played with this Chinese-menu setup before. Mostly just trying to get some discussion going.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:46 am

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In post 31, GrandWazoo wrote:
In post 29, Micc wrote:
In post 26, GrandWazoo wrote:My question for you is: How are you intending to apply these theory discussions in a way that helps you win this game?
I don't know atm but this is my first MS game and haven't played with this Chinese-menu setup before. Mostly just trying to get some discussion going.

You should vote Micc for trying to distract you with rhetorical questions
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:58 am

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In post 28, Alonzo wrote:When did FF start using the word cheeky??
Thats a nod to you brother. Just wait til I call someone a complete muppet.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:58 am

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In post 31, GrandWazoo wrote:
In post 29, Micc wrote:
In post 26, GrandWazoo wrote:My question for you is: How are you intending to apply these theory discussions in a way that helps you win this game?
I don't know atm but this is my first MS game and haven't played with this Chinese-menu setup before. Mostly just trying to get some discussion going.
Ahh but there’s plenty of interesting things happening in this game already and discussing this game is immensely more useful than theory.

What do you think of me putting Alonzo to L-2 for no reason other than to make a wagon?
What do you think of YellowSnow’s comment about your post looking unnatural?
What do you think of Alonzo campaigning for your vote?

(Note that these are actually rhetorical whereas the question I asked in post 29 wasn’t)
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:19 am

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In post 33, Formerfish wrote:
In post 28, Alonzo wrote:When did FF start using the word cheeky??
Thats a nod to you brother. Just wait til I call someone a complete muppet.
Ooof was that one of mine?

Well...Im sure they deserved it..
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:23 am

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Could be you were trying to distract me and still are. Or maybe Alonzo's trying to get me to vote someone on his own wagon. Perhaps both are true.
I'll keep my vote on flippy until he posts something useful.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:25 am

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Principles.

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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:40 am

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In post 35, Alonzo wrote:
In post 33, Formerfish wrote:
In post 28, Alonzo wrote:When did FF start using the word cheeky??
Thats a nod to you brother. Just wait til I call someone a complete muppet.
Ooof was that one of mine?

Well...Im sure they deserved it..
Don't worry thats not from you, I watch a lot of motorcycle videos out of GB for some reason and they call people muppets all the time, it kinda stuck with me. I feel better calling people that name in place of others.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:42 am

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In post 36, GrandWazoo wrote:Could be you were trying to distract me and still are. Or maybe Alonzo's trying to get me to vote someone on his own wagon. Perhaps both are true.
I'll keep my vote on flippy until he posts something useful.
Votes lose their power when you speak to their intentions.

And you can still hunt among active players while back burnering him until he gets back, there are 2 scumbags in this game...
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:44 am

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@ff you don't think you should be expected to explain your votes?
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:45 am

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In post 40, YellowSnow wrote:@ff you don't think you should be expected to explain your votes?
If you think someone is scum, yes.

If you are putting pressure on someone by voting them, does that pressure still apply when they know its a pressure vote?
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:56 am

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The correct answer is anything you do in the game may require explanation.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:44 am

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In post 42, YellowSnow wrote:The correct answer is anything you do in the game may require explanation.
That's kinda what I said. I'm not sure I understand your attempt at making a distiction there between the two.

Of course our motivations are going to be important when trying to sort us, but if I gave you a line by line look I to how I am going to judge you then you have a play book on how to avoid detection.

Sometimes we need to play with our cards closer to our vests until the right time to out that shit and hang some scum.

Also please note that in the future when trying to empart sage like knowledge, maybe skip that guy with the SE next to his name, the 2013 join date, and the multiple dozens of games played on this site alone. Kthx.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:38 pm

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In post 39, Formerfish wrote:
In post 36, GrandWazoo wrote:Could be you were trying to distract me and still are. Or maybe Alonzo's trying to get me to vote someone on his own wagon. Perhaps both are true.
I'll keep my vote on flippy until he posts something useful.
Votes lose their power when you speak to their intentions.

And you can still hunt among active players while back burnering him until he gets back, there are 2 scumbags in this game...
I doubt my flippy vote has much power one way or the other since mine is the only one on him, just want to see some content there. If and when he provides it, I'll reassess. It doesn't mean I'm not looking at other as well.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:19 pm

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In post 39, Formerfish wrote:
In post 36, GrandWazoo wrote:Could be you were trying to distract me and still are. Or maybe Alonzo's trying to get me to vote someone on his own wagon. Perhaps both are true.
I'll keep my vote on flippy until he posts something useful.
Votes lose their power when you speak to their intentions.

And you can still hunt among active players while back burnering him until he gets back, there are 2 scumbags in this game...
I'm sorry what?

You aren't making much sense here.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:55 pm

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VOTE: NIKK
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:42 pm

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VOTE: FormerFish
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:11 pm

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In post 45, Nikk wrote:
In post 39, Formerfish wrote:
In post 36, GrandWazoo wrote:Could be you were trying to distract me and still are. Or maybe Alonzo's trying to get me to vote someone on his own wagon. Perhaps both are true.
I'll keep my vote on flippy until he posts something useful.
Votes lose their power when you speak to their intentions.

And you can still hunt among active players while back burnering him until he gets back, there are 2 scumbags in this game...
I'm sorry what?

You aren't making much sense here.
You'll have to point out what is unclear to you for me to be able to try and explain it better.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:12 pm

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Also, did you read the rest of my posts where I expand on that a bit and still not understand, or did you get to the first thing that hurt your head and stop there?
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