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Mewtaph's Mini Normal Review, December 2018

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:31 pm
by Mewtaph
So here's where we're at right now.

Setup List

Disloyal Babysitter

Odd-Night Loyal Babysitter

1-Shot Vigilante Rolecop

Jailkeeper

Vanilla Townie

Mafia 1-Shot Encryptor

Mafia Night 2 Informed Goon

Mafia Goon


Role PMs

Spoiler:
Mini Normal 2051: Winter's SacrificeWelcome, playername. You are a
Disloyal Babysitter
.

Abilities:

You may target a player each night to protect them. However, if you are killed that night, both you and your target will die.
This action will only succeed when targeting a player of a different alignment. You will not be notified if your action has failed or succeeded.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal 2051: Winter's SacrificeWelcome, playername. You are an
Odd-Night Loyal Babysitter
.

Abilities:

You may target a player on odd-numbered nights to protect them. However, if you are killed that night, both you and your target will die.
This action will only succeed when targeting a player of the same alignment. You will not be notified if your action has failed or succeeded.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal 2051: Winter's SacrificeWelcome, playername. You are a
1-Shot Vigilante Rolecop
.

Abilities:

Once in the game, you may target a player to attempt to kill them.
You may target a player each night to learn their role. There is no indication of the target's alignment.
If a Mafia Goon or Vanilla Townie is investigated, they return "Vanilla".
You cannot use both of your actions in a single night phase.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal 2051: Winter's SacrificeWelcome, playername. You are a
Jailkeeper
.

Abilities:

You may target a player each night to attempt to jailkeep them.
This will simultaneously roleblock and protect your target from all night kills during the night.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal 2051: Winter's SacrificeWelcome, playername. You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

Abilities:

You have no special abilities. Your vote is your weapon.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal 2051: Winter's SacrificeWelcome, playername. You are a
Mafia 1-Shot Encryptor
.

Abilities:

You have two mafia partners, playername, who is a
Mafia Goon
, and playername, who is a
Mafia Night 2 Informed Goon
.
As a member of the Mafia, you have access to a factional nightkill: each night one of you may kill another player.
Once in the game, you may choose to allow the mafia PT to stay open for the following day phase only.

Win condition:

You win when the mafia make up at least 50% of all living players or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Your private topic is here.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal 2051: Winter's SacrificeWelcome, playername. You are a
Mafia Night 2 Informed Goon
.

Abilities:

You have two mafia partners, playername, who is a
Mafia 1-Shot Encryptor
, and playername, who is a
Mafia Goon
.
As a member of the Mafia, you have access to a factional nightkill: each night one of you may kill another player.
At the beginning of Night 2, if you are still alive, you and your partners will be informed on some details of the setup.

Win condition:

You win when the mafia make up at least 50% of all living players or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Your private topic is here.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Mini Normal 2051: Winter's SacrificeWelcome, playername. You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Abilities:

You have two mafia partners, playername, who is a
Mafia 1-Shot Encryptor
, and playername, who is a
Mafia Night 2 Informed Goon
.
As a member of the Mafia, you have access to a factional nightkill: each night one of you may kill another player.

Win condition:

You win when the mafia make up at least 50% of all living players or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Your private topic is here.
The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this with your role name and alignment.

Night 2 Information

Spoiler:
Night 2 Information Received
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Outside of you and your partners, exactly 3 of the following roles existed in some form at the beginning of the game.
  1. Babysitter
  2. Follower
  3. Tracker
  4. Rolecop
  5. Vigilante


Action Resolution Priority

Roleblock > Protect > Investigate > Kill
In roles: Jailkeep > Babysit > Rolecop > Vig/Kill

Rolecop Outcomes:

Spoiler:
Rolecop Town Disloyal Babysitter => Receives "Disloyal Babysitter"
Rolecop Town Odd-Night Loyal Babysitter => Receives "Odd-Night Loyal Babysitter"
Rolecop Town Jailkeeper => Receives "Jailkeeper"
Rolecop Mafia 1-Shot Encryptor => Receives "1-Shot Encryptor"
Rolecop Mafia Night 2 Informed Goon => Receives "Night 2 Informed"
Rolecop Mafia Goon => Receives "Vanilla"
Rolecop Vanilla Townie => Receives "Vanilla"

OP on post 7, Ruleset on post 8

D1 Start VC:

Spoiler:
VC 1.00
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votes
[13] Not Voting
:
Playername, Playername, Playername, Playername, Playername, Playername, Playername, Playername, Playername, Playername, Playername, Playername, Playername

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.


The Day 1 deadline is in
: (expired on 2018-12-27 07:07:51)

Mod Notes
: :]

Mafia Private Topic

Spoiler:
Mini Normal 2051: Winter's Sacrifice - Mafia Private Topic
Welcome to Mini Normal 2051: Winter's Sacrifice!


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The mafia members are:


Playername, who is a
Mafia 1-Shot Encryptor
.
Playername, who is a
Mafia Night 2 Informed Goon
.
Playername, who is a
Mafia Goon
.


Good luck!


Any changes needed?

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:27 pm
by Performer
In post 23, Mewtaph wrote:What are your thoughts on a list similar to this?

Night 2 Information ReceivedOutside of you and your partners, exactly 3 of the following roles existed in some form at the beginning of the game.
  1. Babysitter
  2. Follower
  3. Tracker
  4. Rolecop
  5. Vigilante

Offers the mafia team room to speculate on who the town PRs are but are likely to not get things right before players have made their full claims - they might think the 1-Shot Vigilante Rolecop is only playing like one of the roles for example. If the scum team is accurate in nailing three of the roles in some way eg. specific PR hints, correct thoughts on some roles not fitting in the setup, they gain access to two powerful fake claims that fit the town power structure if they're successfully avoiding the ire of a rolecop check - follower (fits well and can "confirm" babysitter actions), or tracker (could fake results, nothing really screams out to fit well here). Alternatively, they can treat the list as a "do not fake claim as" list, and safely avoid making most conflicting claims with the town PRs except for Jailkeeper.
Hmm I would think a specific list is more helpful . Something like this for the n2 info for the n2 informed goon:

There exists a Jailkeeper, 2 Babysitters, and a Vigilante Rolecop.

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:15 pm
by Mewtaph
In the current setup, do you guys feel that it's scum sided or town sided?

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:20 pm
by schadd_
In post 26, Performer wrote: Hmm I would think a specific list is more helpful . Something like this for the n2 info for the n2 informed goon:

There exists a Jailkeeper, 2 Babysitters, and a Vigilante Rolecop.
i mean it doesnt need to be more helpful i think
In post 27, Mewtaph wrote:In the current setup, do you guys feel that it's scum sided or town sided?
i think it's close to even with your current idea for the inform - kind of hard to say as i've gone over but if it is skewed, it wouldn't be by a lot

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:23 pm
by Mewtaph
Yeah, I think that it's close to balanced currently. I don't think that the inform needs to give more information but I guess I could have my mind changed on that.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:59 am
by Performer
I think it leaves a little too much...guesswork for scum ? As opposed to having something specific.

I was thinking either way could be balanced - having them know 3 of the 5 roles existed or having them know those specific 4 tprs existed....

But I am fine with mew deciding on moving forward with the setup , if he wants. It's looks balanced to me as well.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:54 pm
by Mewtaph
Okay, well I think I prefer running with the 3 of 5 informed just to see how it goes.

In short, I'd happy running disloyal babysit, odd-night loyal babysit, 1-shot vig rolecop, JK, mafia 1-shot encryptor, mafia n2 informed.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:25 am
by Performer
Schad/anyone else - anymore thoughts? I'm fine with it.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:28 pm
by schadd_
In post 31, Mewtaph wrote:Okay, well I think I prefer running with the 3 of 5 informed just to see how it goes.

In short, I'd happy running disloyal babysit, odd-night loyal babysit, 1-shot vig rolecop, JK, mafia 1-shot encryptor, mafia n2 informed.
fine w this
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