schadd 11p pre-designated setup

[schadd_]

is the concern bad gameplay or bad balance

[RadiantCowbells]

both

[RadiantCowbells]

turns out that all 3 town prs being confirmable makes the town pretty strong!

[schadd_]

HGHUGH

[RadiantCowbells]

i will roll a d100 and if it rolls 1 i'll cut my rattail off

how is that for encouragement for you to switch designs?

[schadd_]

im already trying to think of something else Fun but PLEASE consider doing that regardless

[RadiantCowbells]

kappa

[RadiantCowbells]

alright ok

here's what i can do for you

mason
mason 2-shot vig
informed townie
7vt
3goons

[schadd_]

i dont care abt the inform thing at all on its own i just thot it interacted coolly w protective (but yeah with competent play that just becomes a thrasonry)

[schadd_]

i might just end up going for a whole different thing with a bunch of fruit vendors

[RadiantCowbells]

that idea ur thinking of right now is shit and i will never pass it in a millino years

[schadd_]

jailkeeper
loyal neighborizer
odd-night disloyal roleblocker
5 vt

2 goons
maf night 1 watcher

[schadd_]

loyal neighborizer

something i want to know regardless of whether the whole setup is fine is whether this role is better or worse than cop (note that somebody still gets hooded if the role dies that night)

[implosion]

I mean, it's marginally better right? Depending on the setup. Its advantage is universal, which is that a successful neighborization gives you someone to claim to, with potential for them to later claim guilties for you. Its disadvantage is that a guilty and a failed action are indistinguishable, which is a big disadvantage in a setup with a mafia roleblocker/stopper/gaoler/etc.

[schadd_]

i think the extra inno is way better than the extra claimant(s) especially considering the point where the claim matters (i.e., cop makes it to d3) is already really great for town

[RadiantCowbells]

jailkeeper
loyal neighborizer
odd-night disloyal roleblocker
5 vt

2 goons
maf night 1 watcher

how do disloyals and watchers interact

[schadd_]

heteroalignmental disloyal action is not seen by watcher

[RadiantCowbells]

I see

This I'd balanced but I'll get yelled at that it's imbalanced in postgame

[schadd_]

wig ok

[RadiantCowbells]

that's a pass

[RadiantCowbells]

Welcome, X

You are a Town Jailkeeper.

Each night you may target a player and they will be roleblocked and protected from all nightkills.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Welcome, X

You are a Town Loyal Neighbourizer.

Each night you may target a player and, if they share your alignment, they will be added to a neighbourhood which can be found here.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Welcome, X

You are a Town Odd-Night Disloyal Roleblocker.

Each odd night you may target a player and, if they do not share your alignment, they will be roleblocked and their action will be prevented from happening.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

i decided to do half of them because idk if you want to do them yourself and this way i have half done and if you don't want them i don't have to do them

[ChibiBear]

Daychat available yes/no?

[ChibiBear]

Here's the PMs, just to make sure everything is correct:

Welcome, [Player]! You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

Abilities:

Each night you may target a player and they will be roleblocked and protected from all nightkills.

Win Conditions:

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

Welcome, [Player]! You are a

Town Loyal Neighbourizer

.

Abilities:

Each night you may target a player and, if they share your alignment, they will be added to a neighbourhood which can be found here.

Win Conditions:

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

Welcome, [Player]! You are a

Town Odd-Night Disloyal Roleblocker

.

Abilities:

Each odd night you may target a player and, if they do not share your alignment, they will be roleblocked and their action will be prevented from happening.

Win Conditions:

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

Welcome, [Player]! You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities:

You have no abilities other than your voice and your vote.

Win Conditions:

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

Welcome, [Player]! You are a

Mafia Goon

.

Abilities:

Each night you may perform the factional nightkill, killing a player.

You may discuss the game here during days and nights.

Win Conditions:

You win when the Town have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

Welcome, [Player]! You are a

Mafia Night 1 Watcher

.

Abilities:

On Night 1, you may target a player to learn who targeted them, but not what actions were performed on them.

Each night you may perform the factional nightkill, killing a player.

You may discuss the game here during days and nights.

Win Conditions:

You win when the Town have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

[schadd_]

role PMs good, maybe with clarification for the watcher that they can't simultaneously watch & kill

up to you, i like having daytalk on

[ChibiBear]

Got it!