A 13-player pre-designed Performer setup

[RadiantCowbells]

Gonna think about it overnight

[Performer]

Worst cases I can think of for town and scum in terms of balance reviewing, based on my version 1 of the setup from post 23

A. Worst case possibility 1, for town - starting on d1:

bp doc lynched
scum jails tracker
scum nk n2 cop
ascetic cop checks miller - guilty

d2: miller ends up lynched

n2:
scum jail backup tracker
scum nk ascetic cop

d3: mislynch on town again

n3:
scum nk backup tracker

d4: lylo

B. Worst case possibility 1, for scum - starting on d1:

scum 1 gets lynched
ascetic cop checks scum 2 - guilty! jk gets lynched next day
tracker sees scum 3 move for an nk - next lynch in line for day 3. simultaneously, the doc fortunately protects nk target

Basically scum are done for on n1 with my version 1 setup, is the way I see it after some more thought...

[Performer]

Now that I've had more time to think it over with those 2 cases, starting to think of this modified version below. I was starting to suspect town had too many methods to catch scum on n1 & they have a 1-shot bulletproof protective too. So

I watered it down to version 2 below...thoughts?

Maintains the bp theme with 3 investigatives and bp protective, balanced with 1 negative utility in the informed miller and added 2 modifiers to buff up the mafia jk. So at worst case in the scum world, town wins in 3 days with a d1 scum lynch combined with n1 & n2 results. But that would have to have some incredible talent and/or luck.
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Version 2:

Mafia Bulletproof
Mafia Encryptor
Mafia Multitasking Ninja Jailkeeper

vs

Ascetic 1-shot Cop
N2 Cop
1-shot Bulletproof Doctor
Informed Miller: you are informed there is a Bulletproof Doctor!
Motion Detector
4 Vanilla Townies

[northsidegal]

@RC, what would you say the effect would be of removing the N2 cop and changing the ascetic 1-shot cop to 2-shot?

[RadiantCowbells]

fuck umm let's call this 2 hours

[RadiantCowbells]

setup seems both bad and scumsided

[RadiantCowbells]

i just like

don't see the merit

[RadiantCowbells]

I think it's playable as is I guess

i don't like it but

[RadiantCowbells]

like I really don't feel like it's a 'normal' game but

[RadiantCowbells]

@RC, what would you say the effect would be of removing the N2 cop and changing the ascetic 1-shot cop to 2-shot?

it would be a slight nerf to town

[Performer]

What about this one:

Mafia Bulletproof
Mafia Encryptor
Mafia Goon

vs

1-shot Bulletproof
1-shot Vigilante
Doctor
Informed Miller: you are informed there are two bulletproofs in the setup
1-shot Motion Detector
Backup Motion Detector
4 Vanilla Townies

[RadiantCowbells]

Umm

[RadiantCowbells]

Sure I guess

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean setup spec will murder town but

[RadiantCowbells]

Give town a role cop in place of something?

[Performer]

Give town a role cop in place of something?

How about in place of the Backup Motion Detector?

[RadiantCowbells]

Sure

Make the mafia bullet proof 2 shot and make the goon a 1 shot cop?

[northsidegal]

that's all to make the rolecop get pseudo-innos on scum?

[Performer]

Mafia 2-shot Bulletproof
Mafia Encryptor
Mafia 1-shot Cop

vs

1-shot Bulletproof
1-shot Vigilante
Doctor
Informed Miller: you are informed there are two bulletproofs in the setup
1-shot Motion Detector
Rolecop
4 Vanilla Townies
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I feel like this has even more wifom craziness than the previous setup. Never seen a Mafia Cop before....but I'm fine with the suggestions .

[Performer]

that's all to make the rolecop get pseudo-innos on scum?

hmm I want to know as well

@RC

[RadiantCowbells]

basically

i think it makes the setup more interesting. they aren't necessarily pseudo innos as much as they're interesting quesiton marks and the setup was already low power so

[RadiantCowbells]

encryptor is obvscum
bulletproof is meant to slightly lean scum
cop is meant to look towny

think it would be interesting.

[RadiantCowbells]

ok
me and nsg were going over changes to the setup on sitechat
how would you feel about

JOAT (Vigilante, Neapolitan)
1-Shot Bulletproof Miller
Doctor
Rolecop
VT
VT
VT
VT
VT
VT

1-Shot Strongman
Encryptor
Goon

[Performer]

JOAT (Vigilante, Neapolitan)
1-Shot Bulletproof Miller
Doctor
Rolecop
VT
VT
VT
VT
VT
VT

1-Shot Strongman
Encryptor
Goon

hm...interesting setup with the unlimited vig. I like it!

[RadiantCowbells]

You want same setup but with unlimited vig instead of 1shotvig 1shotnea?