Gameshow Mafia ~Rerolling~

BNL · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:31 am

Vote Count 1.1.18-ball (6): RadiantCowbells, Wisdom, Vedith, TemporalLich, Taly, rosterfoster

Not Voting (11): Shoshin, mbaki, OkaPoka, StarwingBeauvoi, momo, Not Known 15, Creature, insomnia, Nancy Drew 39, JunkoChan, Baezu

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

The deadline for choosing a power is 12 April 7am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-04-12 07:00:00)

Mod notes:

momo · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:32 am

Everyone stop voting 8ball. It may be the best option but a RVS wagon on the first page, especially one that involves following RC, is really suspicious.

I do believe that 8ball is the best. That said, I am almost certainly sure that one of Vedith/Taly/TemporalLich is scum. I’m pretty sure RC sees this too as they showed no hesitation to following the leader on D1.

Wisdom suggested the idea and RC gave first vote so we know it’s not them.

Wisdom and RC, both of u can probs setup analyze better than me and I am townreading you rn so answer me this...

Do you think that one of those 3 is scum?

If so, do you think we should change our path given that we know one of those three is scum?

NinjaEdit: make that 4 with rosterfoster.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:33 am

In post 26, momo wrote:RVS wagon on the first page, especially one that involves following RC

fuck off.

rosterfoster · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:33 am

Oh yeah I didn't mean today. But maybe means switching from 8-ball earlier than I though it good.

Pedit: This isn't a wagon it's just the objectively best choice. Please don't give scum more info about who to 8-ball, ty.

momo · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:34 am

In post 27, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 26, momo wrote:RVS wagon on the first page, especially one that involves following RC

fuck off.

My bad. I understand that you have to be the leader cause meta. I’m just asking if you think that’s sus. Scum!momk’s main goal would be getting RC’s support...so that might be what they are doing

Taly · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:35 am

momo

, what power do you think is best used?

because if you think its 8-ball, the alignments of the people voting it shouldn't affect your decision.

this is not a read-based wagon, but a setup-focused one.

Wisdom · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:35 am

momo it can be all town or it can contain a scum
i dont think we can form any definite conclusion

momo · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:38 am

I honestly don’t know. I have just returned to mafia from a long break and even before, I knew jack shit about setup analysis

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:45 am

Sry for getting mad I expected some sort of well we shouldn't sheep RC b/c good at scum bullshit before I remembered you were one of the people who thinks nothing of my abilities as either alignment \o/

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:46 am

I meant that a lot less passive aggressively than it came out

Apparently I'm not good at sounding not passive aggressive

rosterfoster · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:53 am

In post 32, momo wrote:I honestly don’t know. I have just returned to mafia from a long break and even before, I knew jack shit about setup analysis

The chances of Mafia getting the 8-ball right are probably about 1/13 or so (there are some people who they can expect to never get lynched). This means we probably have nightless for at least tonight. See a better option?

Taly · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:54 am

In post 32, momo wrote:I honestly don’t know. I have just returned to mafia from a long break and even before, I knew jack shit about setup analysis

you said that 8-ball was best in 26, why? if you no longer think this, then what changed?
(encourage you to not share reads atm as that begins to defeat the point of the past page or so - keep this factual)

8ball option becomes less optimal the more reads and gamesolve information is injected into the thread, that gives scum a narrative to attach to and create a probable candidate to be lynched - thus being 8-ball.

thats why a quickvote out-of-the-gate is necessary for this option to work.

gtg, i need to study for Trig/Chemistry tests this week, ill be on later in a few hours.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:55 am

Don't even have that discussion just lock in 8 ball \o/

Taly · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:02 am

on second thought, im with

kittybells

100% here

RadiantCowbells wrote:Don't even have that discussion just lock in 8 ball \o/

fuck. i need to do chem work now guys damnit

insomnia · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:05 am

It seems like the party has already started

Without me

momo · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:58 am

I have a question for the mod

@mod ... at the conclusion of the day, do we get to know who mafia chose to be the 8ball

???

Not Known 15 · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:09 am

VOTE: 8ball

Baezu · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:14 am

Hi all!

I have not played this style of Mafia before but reading through the powers it seems to me that 1 of 4 is pretty powerful! To narrow the field down from 17 to 4 with a guaranteed Mafia! How is this not the most beneficial for town atm?

TemporalLich · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:22 am

In post 42, Baezu wrote:Hi all!

I have not played this style of Mafia before but reading through the powers it seems to me that 1 of 4 is pretty powerful! To narrow the field down from 17 to 4 with a guaranteed Mafia! How is this not the most beneficial for town atm?

Because 8-ball effectively gives us a lynch for free.

BNL · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:27 am

In post 40, momo wrote:
@mod ... at the conclusion of the day, do we get to know who mafia chose to be the 8ball
???

If 8-ball is chosen, then whether or not the eliminated player was the 8-ball will be publicly revealed. However, if the 8-ball was not eliminated, the identity of the 8-ball will

not

be revealed.

mbaki · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:31 am

Beep, incorrect. And this post contains no reads so it shouldn't affect the 8ball strategy regardless.

Optimal play is to use

reveal

RC or myself today. I don't care which, I would rather myself because I think I can read the majority of this playerlist, but if people would much prefer RC I am okay with that. Then, we are going to use

protect

if the revealed player is town, and lynch them if scum. After this process, then we use 8ball.

OkaPoka · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:46 am

It appears my dream of RQS will wait.

OkaPoka · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:54 am

I dont know if this warrants discussion because I can't crunch numbers, but I think it's worth considering that 8ball doesn't actually improve ability to lynch scum today, only improves chance to deny scum nk.

OkaPoka · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:59 am

VOTE: 8ball

Baezu · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:00 am

In post 47, OkaPoka wrote:I dont know if this warrants discussion because I can't crunch numbers, but I think it's worth considering that 8ball doesn't actually improve ability to lynch scum today, only improves chance to deny scum nk.

This is what I’m thinking too, and it seems like there are other powers that nix nk as well...sorry to be dense but I still think there are better powers we can vote on