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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:31 am
by BNL
Vote Count 1.1.18-ball (6): , , , , ,

Not Voting (11): Shoshin, mbaki, OkaPoka, StarwingBeauvoi, momo, Not Known 15, Creature, insomnia, Nancy Drew 39, JunkoChan, Baezu

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

The deadline for choosing a power is 12 April 7am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-04-12 07:00:00)

Mod notes:

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:32 am
by momo
Everyone stop voting 8ball. It may be the best option but a RVS wagon on the first page, especially one that involves following RC, is really suspicious.

I do believe that 8ball is the best. That said, I am almost certainly sure that one of Vedith/Taly/TemporalLich is scum. I’m pretty sure RC sees this too as they showed no hesitation to following the leader on D1.

Wisdom suggested the idea and RC gave first vote so we know it’s not them.

Wisdom and RC, both of u can probs setup analyze better than me and I am townreading you rn so answer me this...

Do you think that one of those 3 is scum?

If so, do you think we should change our path given that we know one of those three is scum?

NinjaEdit: make that 4 with rosterfoster.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:33 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 26, momo wrote:RVS wagon on the first page, especially one that involves following RC
fuck off.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:33 am
by rosterfoster
Oh yeah I didn't mean today. But maybe means switching from 8-ball earlier than I though it good.

Pedit: This isn't a wagon it's just the objectively best choice. Please don't give scum more info about who to 8-ball, ty.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:34 am
by momo
In post 27, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 26, momo wrote:RVS wagon on the first page, especially one that involves following RC
fuck off.
My bad. I understand that you have to be the leader cause meta. I’m just asking if you think that’s sus. Scum!momk’s main goal would be getting RC’s support...so that might be what they are doing

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:35 am
by Taly
momo
, what power do you think is best used?

because if you think its 8-ball, the alignments of the people voting it shouldn't affect your decision.

this is not a read-based wagon, but a setup-focused one.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:35 am
by Wisdom
momo it can be all town or it can contain a scum
i dont think we can form any definite conclusion

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:38 am
by momo
I honestly don’t know. I have just returned to mafia from a long break and even before, I knew jack shit about setup analysis

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:45 am
by RadiantCowbells
Sry for getting mad I expected some sort of well we shouldn't sheep RC b/c good at scum bullshit before I remembered you were one of the people who thinks nothing of my abilities as either alignment \o/

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:46 am
by RadiantCowbells
I meant that a lot less passive aggressively than it came out

Apparently I'm not good at sounding not passive aggressive

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:53 am
by rosterfoster
In post 32, momo wrote:I honestly don’t know. I have just returned to mafia from a long break and even before, I knew jack shit about setup analysis
The chances of Mafia getting the 8-ball right are probably about 1/13 or so (there are some people who they can expect to never get lynched). This means we probably have nightless for at least tonight. See a better option?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:54 am
by Taly
In post 32, momo wrote:I honestly don’t know. I have just returned to mafia from a long break and even before, I knew jack shit about setup analysis
you said that 8-ball was best in , why? if you no longer think this, then what changed?
(encourage you to not share reads atm as that begins to defeat the point of the past page or so - keep this factual)

8ball option becomes less optimal the more reads and gamesolve information is injected into the thread, that gives scum a narrative to attach to and create a probable candidate to be lynched - thus being 8-ball.

thats why a quickvote out-of-the-gate is necessary for this option to work.

gtg, i need to study for Trig/Chemistry tests this week, ill be on later in a few hours.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:55 am
by RadiantCowbells
Don't even have that discussion just lock in 8 ball \o/

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:02 am
by Taly
on second thought, im with
kittybells
100% here
RadiantCowbells wrote:Don't even have that discussion just lock in 8 ball \o/
fuck. i need to do chem work now guys damnit

Image

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:05 am
by insomnia
It seems like the party has already started

Without me :(

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:58 am
by momo
I have a question for the mod

@mod ... at the conclusion of the day, do we get to know who mafia chose to be the 8ball
???

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:09 am
by Not Known 15
VOTE: 8ball

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:14 am
by Baezu
Hi all!

I have not played this style of Mafia before but reading through the powers it seems to me that 1 of 4 is pretty powerful! To narrow the field down from 17 to 4 with a guaranteed Mafia! How is this not the most beneficial for town atm?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:22 am
by TemporalLich
In post 42, Baezu wrote:Hi all!

I have not played this style of Mafia before but reading through the powers it seems to me that 1 of 4 is pretty powerful! To narrow the field down from 17 to 4 with a guaranteed Mafia! How is this not the most beneficial for town atm?
Because 8-ball effectively gives us a lynch for free.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:27 am
by BNL
In post 40, momo wrote:
@mod ... at the conclusion of the day, do we get to know who mafia chose to be the 8ball
???
If 8-ball is chosen, then whether or not the eliminated player was the 8-ball will be publicly revealed. However, if the 8-ball was not eliminated, the identity of the 8-ball will
not
be revealed.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:31 am
by mbaki
Beep, incorrect. And this post contains no reads so it shouldn't affect the 8ball strategy regardless.

Optimal play is to use
reveal
RC or myself today. I don't care which, I would rather myself because I think I can read the majority of this playerlist, but if people would much prefer RC I am okay with that. Then, we are going to use
protect
if the revealed player is town, and lynch them if scum. After this process, then we use 8ball.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:46 am
by OkaPoka
It appears my dream of RQS will wait.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:54 am
by OkaPoka
I dont know if this warrants discussion because I can't crunch numbers, but I think it's worth considering that 8ball doesn't actually improve ability to lynch scum today, only improves chance to deny scum nk.

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:59 am
by OkaPoka
VOTE: 8ball

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:00 am
by Baezu
In post 47, OkaPoka wrote:I dont know if this warrants discussion because I can't crunch numbers, but I think it's worth considering that 8ball doesn't actually improve ability to lynch scum today, only improves chance to deny scum nk.
This is what I’m thinking too, and it seems like there are other powers that nix nk as well...sorry to be dense but I still think there are better powers we can vote on