Skygazer's micro normal review, May 2019

[Skygazer]

maybe towns should just get better

[callforjudgement]

I'm happy to approve the Miller version of the setup. (FWIW, I think a "decoy Miller" tends to help out town's win chances in general compared to a vanilla setup.)

Having two confirmable town roles and nothing else is probably scumsided, but not by much (especially because in this case, scum can't really 1v1 them and they have a major communication advantage over the scum). I think that adding the Miller too is going to help bring it up to balanced, as players will expect something beyond the Mason pair (the secondary roles on the Masons might count as "something", but maybe not).

We'll just need a role PM for the Miller and then we'll be good to go.

[Skygazer]

schadd had the idea of a N2 tracker instead of bodyguard when i first floated the setup to him, do either of you think that'd work better here instead?

am happy to write up a miller pm in the meantime tho

[Skygazer]

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Town Miller.
Abilities:
Any cops investigating you will receive a "guilty" result.
Win condition:
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

The game thread is [here]. Please send me a PM confirming your role and alignment.

[schadd_]

im kind of unconvinced by the tracker

the only thing id feel comfortable with for adding town power is the bodyguard or something else similarly weak

[schadd_]

i agree that miller is +EV for town if anything (i think ive only seen it fakeclaimed as scum once ever) & would pass that while preferring something more

[Skygazer]

traffic analyst?

[Skygazer]

eh it'd get too many clears nvm

[Skygazer]

complex traffic analyst???

ehh

[callforjudgement]

That seems a bit evil given that

both

scum are false negatives. It'd be about the right power level but it's possible that your playerlist would lynch you after the game. (Rolecop would be a reasonable alternative that's very similar in balance implications.)

N2 Tracker seems wrong in this setup because town don't have anything trackable.

I think schadd_ and I are in agreement that town needs something minor besides the Masons; I just think unmodified Bodyguard is too strong (because it interacts really well with the Masons).

/approve the setup in #23, but willing to keep discussing and maybe approve an alternative version if you find something you like more

[Skygazer]

01 Town Mason Mailman
02 Town Mason Encryptor
03 Town Miller
04 Town Vanilla
05 Town Vanilla
06 Town Vanilla
07 Town Vanilla
08 Mafia Goon
09 Mafia Goon

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Town Mason Mailman.
Abilities:
You share a private thread with [Playername], a Mason Encryptor. You may talk to them [here] at any time. You know them to be aligned with the town.
Each night, you may send me a message to be sent to any living player. The player will not know that you sent the message, but will know it came from a mailman.
Win condition:
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

The game thread is [here]. Please send me a PM confirming your role and alignment.

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Town Mason Encryptor.
Abilities:
You share a private thread with [Playername], a Mason Mailman. You may talk to them [here] at any time. You know them to be aligned with the town.
As an encryptor, your masonry will be open during the day.
Win condition:
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

The game thread is [here]. Please send me a PM confirming your role and alignment.

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Town Miller.
Abilities:
Any cops investigating you will receive a "guilty" result.
Win condition:
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

The game thread is [here]. Please send me a PM confirming your role and alignment.

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
You have no abilities other than your voice and your vote.
Win condition:
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

The game thread is [here]. Please send me a PM confirming your role and alignment.

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Mafia Goon.
Abilities:
You share a private topic with [Playername], a Mafia Goon. You may communicate with them during the night [here].
Your team has a factional night-kill. Each night your team can designate one teammate to perform this kill.
Win condition:
You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or when your factions controls half of the votes).

The game thread is [here]. Please send me a PM confirming your role and alignment.

Last night you received a message from a mailman! Here is that message:

[insert message here]

Micro ####: Generic Micro Normal Mafia

[some sort of image or video here]
Moderator: Skygazer
Reviewers: ??? and ???

Player List:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.

Spoiler: Living Players

Everyone is alive!

Spoiler: Dead Players

None yet!

Spoiler: Events

None yet!

Rules, adapted from schadd_ who adapted them from Nexus.

Be nice. It's a game.

General:
- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this thread.
- Day phases will last 10 days (or until a lynch is achieved).
- Night Phases will last 48 hours maximum. On any given night, if all players PM me that they are okay to speed up the night, it will end sooner.
- During night phase, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated). Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM me.
- "Bah" posts are not allowed.
- Don't publicly talk about potentially replacing out, and don't publicly request for other players to replace out. If you have an issue that may need to be resolved through a replacement, please feel free to bring it up privately with me!
- If you break any of these rules, you may be modkilled (only with a listmod's blessing) or force-replaced.

Voting / Player actions:
- Vote either with vote tags (VOTE: Skygazer) or with bold (

vote: Skygazer

). You may use nicknames and abbreviations if you wish, as long as it's unique to the player and I can figure out who you intended to vote.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- You may vote No Lynch to Not Lynch.
- A lynch will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached by deadline, then no lynch shall occur.
- Following a lynch, it is twilight. You may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it night.
- If nobody dies for 4 consecutive day and night phases, the town will win.
- If you have a Night Action, you may submit it from Night 1 and each subsequent Night (or whichever nights are specified by the role).
- If you have more than one night specific actions, you may only use one per night unless specified otherwise.

Activity:
- You are expected make a game-state advancing post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I shall prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's Day, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you require more than two prods, I will force-replace you.

Mechanics:
- 006688 is my color. Feel free to use it if you'd like! Just not to impersonate me or to mislead others.
- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography. For example, I would prefer that no font size smaller than the one you're reading now be used.
- I may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.
- Day-talk is not active barring the existence of an encryptor.

Sample Role PMs:

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
You have no abilities other than your voice and your vote.
Win condition:
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

The game thread is [here]. Please send me a PM confirming your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Mafia Goon

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Mafia Goon.
Abilities:
You share a private topic with [Player Name], a Mafia Goon. You may communicate with them during the night [here].
Your team has a factional night-kill. Each night your team can designate one teammate to perform this kill.
Win condition:
You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or when your factions controls half of the votes).

The game thread is [here]. Please send me a PM confirming your role and alignment.

[Skygazer]

Happy with just this I think, especially considering scum lack daytalk anyways. Updated the mason role PMs just to add in the link to their PT. One final question: I'm assuming it's kosher for the masons to know each others roles right off the bat? Because I realize that's how I wrote the role PMs. Granted I don't really see why they'd feel the need to lie to each other about their abilities lol

[callforjudgement]

You tell the scum each others' roles too, so I think that's fine. Most of the care that's needed for a Mafia mod is related to hidden information, and Masons really shouldn't have hidden information from each other. (Also, the presence of an Encryptor is likely important to note.)

So I think we're done here. I'll tell implosion.

[implosion]

I think you may need to let micc know since you’re running in the micro queue. Or I can. We never really strictly formalized this process yet~

[Skygazer]

i think the four of us should make a hydra account just so we can all be the ones with the privilege of letting Micc know

[Skygazer]

(I'll send Micc a PM tho)