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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:52 am
by DrDolittle
im talking about claiming even in the sense of a named townie.

like im providing some shitty lower bound of a plan and if you make a plan it should be at least better than this one

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:01 am
by Something_Smart
In post 17, DrDolittle wrote:so like we just need to find 2 conf towns to win the game via the neutral route? sounds easy enough even if we are just drawing normally.
If we spare 2 town and kill 2 people, we end up in 5p with a conftown, which is either 3:2 LYLO or 4:1 depending on if either of the two kills hit scum.

Not a terrible scenario but not an autowin by any stretch of the imagination.

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:07 am
by chennisden
Undyne should claim now btw

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:07 am
by Dr Easy Bake
HEAL: Something_Smart
This is definitely the move.

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:07 am
by chennisden
We're never using her ability

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:07 am
by Dr Easy Bake
In post 1, volxen wrote:First. And I am masons with Chennisden.

HURT: Dr Easy Bake

Someone sheep me on DEB.
Ew you don’t even go to this school.

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:09 am
by DrDolittle
meh im not opposed to genocide either and just playing this like a regular mafia game

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:10 am
by DrDolittle
*the genocide route.
i am against genocide to be clear

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:10 am
by Oversoul
Chennisden scum. PR should not claim because then they get counterclaimed and we are back where we started.

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:11 am
by chennisden
oversoul you're throwing out names and healing who looks like your scum partner

can you not

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:11 am
by Elements
In post 31, DrDolittle wrote:meh im not opposed to genocide either and just playing this like a regular mafia game
Genocide becomes a normal mafia game with potentially no form of power roles. Sparing is where we get pseudo checks from and can narrow down scum from

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:11 am
by chennisden
IF THERE'S A COUNTERCLAIM WE LYNCH THE SCUM DUH

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:12 am
by Something_Smart
In post 29, chennisden wrote:We're never using her ability
Do you think genocide is bad or just a boring option in a setup like this?

Undyne's power is amazing if it triggers.

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:12 am
by Oversoul
We should start with Pacifist in mind and then if we feel scared we can do Neutral as safety net I think

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:12 am
by chennisden
mafia would be rly stupid to try counterclaiming since worst case we just go to d3 with 1 mislynch and 1 scumlynch.

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:12 am
by Elements
In post 35, Elements wrote:
In post 31, DrDolittle wrote:meh im not opposed to genocide either and just playing this like a regular mafia game
Genocide becomes a normal mafia game with potentially no form of power roles. Sparing is where we get pseudo checks from and can narrow down scum from
That was horrible grammar I apologise, I'm currently on a tram

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:12 am
by Oversoul
In post 36, chennisden wrote:IF THERE'S A COUNTERCLAIM WE LYNCH THE SCUM DUH
But we don’t know who is the scum duh. And we won’t because no flips duh

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:13 am
by chennisden
In post 37, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 29, chennisden wrote:We're never using her ability
Do you think genocide is bad or just a boring option in a setup like this?

Undyne's power is amazing if it triggers.
Mostyl I don't want to go the weakest route on the chance we have Undyne. We can make her useful by her claiming which either will (1) get us a conftown or (2) worst case lynch us a scum

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:14 am
by chennisden
In post 41, Oversoul wrote:
In post 36, chennisden wrote:IF THERE'S A COUNTERCLAIM WE LYNCH THE SCUM DUH
But we don’t know who is the scum duh. And we won’t because no flips duh
Read the game we have lynches

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:15 am
by Something_Smart
In post 34, chennisden wrote:oversoul you're throwing out names and healing who looks like your scum partner

can you not
You think the scumteam would open the game by stacking heal votes on one of their members? O.o

(To be clear I would be totally down for this and was planning to self-heal before I got my role but I doubt my partner would want to tie themself to me like that.)

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:16 am
by chennisden
Worst case we lynch wrong and lynch scum tomorrow.

WORST CASE. That's terrible for scum btw.

PRs should claim D1 and w/o counterclaim we spare.

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:16 am
by chennisden
In post 44, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 34, chennisden wrote:oversoul you're throwing out names and healing who looks like your scum partner

can you not
You think the scumteam would open the game by stacking heal votes on one of their members? O.o

(To be clear I would be totally down for this and was planning to self-heal before I got my role but I doubt my partner would want to tie themself to me like that.)
Pacifist is flipless I think so idk

Oversoul looks terrible rn and you don't fwiw

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:17 am
by chennisden
Uh yeah I strongly think PR should claim now

The PRs are situational and we either spare a town or find a scum

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:17 am
by Elements
In post 45, chennisden wrote:Worst case we lynch wrong and lynch scum tomorrow.

WORST CASE. That's terrible for scum btw.

PRs should claim D1 and w/o counterclaim we spare.
Don't scum just kill the pr claim night 1?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:17 am
by chennisden
Maybe not NOW NOW but definitely sometime in D1 where we've had enough time to sort some people and we have enough time to decide on a counterclaim if scum decides to throw