It's absolutely likely the wagon was organic due to time conveniences, but the behavior about it doesn't make me lean that way. Consolidation like that makes me think somebody tried to hide because that vote happening to be in vogue at the moment.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:30 am
by tictac
balley was rvs-vote
fancy wasn't hiding in a crowd because the vote wasn't in vogue before he voted.
vor and zen are the ones who might qualify for what ya talking about.
why ya not voting one of them?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:39 am
by Suspicious
I want to keep talking with Fancy at the. And I have to say I doubt the initial vote as genuine RVS.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:40 am
by Suspicious
Pedit: meant 'moment' at the end there.
I essentially want to prod to get opinions right now, and that is the direction I'm starting in.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:42 am
by tictac
ok then
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:26 am
by GeorgeBailey
Beautiful start.
Anyways, the reason I didn't do an immediate unvote, is because I don't think the others realized we were putting
Suspicious
at L-1/L-2.
Also,
Fancy's
post and mine are 1 minute apart. Gimme slack here.
Zenith's
naked vote against
Suspicious
seemed strange, and I wanna chalk it up to RVS, but the post was barren of any flavour/reasoning/anything.
These days are absurdly long, so I like to maximize their potential usage. What's wrong in trying to figure players out in that timespan?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:09 am
by tictac
I don't think there's anything wrong w that.
that's why I said 'ok'
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:16 am
by Vorkuta
I voted because that's literally the only way to make progress @D1.
Jokes aside, Sus's reaction to said wagon and the follow up interrogation gets him townpoints from me.
But like... come on guys, show a tiny bit of common sense with these questions
What's wrong with an early L-1?
If scum were on the wagon, would they be more likely to stay there? Or would they be more likely to unvote for potential town points?
FOS
@ Fancy and GeorgeBailey.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:23 am
by Zenith
In post 33, Vorkuta wrote:I voted because that's literally the only way to make progress @D1.
Jokes aside, Sus's reaction to said wagon and the follow up interrogation gets him townpoints from me.
But like... come on guys, show a tiny bit of common sense with these questions
What specifically about his reaction makes you give him town points?
If suspicious is scum, I could see him as an easy early bus for easy distance. But the wagon moved pretty fast, so perhaps his partner got scared and backed off?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:31 am
by Vorkuta
Sus's reaction- not that of panic but "gimme a break, ok whats going on?"
RVS pressure gets to people in different ways
Nah
Scum has literally the entire roster to vote during RVS.
Anticipating being RVS voted for having a funny name is one thing, but I see no reason for them to pile up like that.
It's just horribly suboptimal
Also keep in mind that we're still missing a player
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:39 am
by ceejayvinoya
Hi I think you miss me
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:41 am
by ceejayvinoya
Heeeey iamveryserious isn't around too
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:43 am
by ceejayvinoya
@zenith what was your suspicious vote for?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:33 pm
by Suspicious
In post 33, Vorkuta wrote:I voted because that's literally the only way to make progress @D1.
Jokes aside, Sus's reaction to said wagon and the follow up interrogation gets him townpoints from me.
But like... come on guys, show a tiny bit of common sense with these questions
Voting to join a wagon is not the only path to getting reactions. Why did you choose that option over others?
What's wrong with an early L-1?
If scum were on the wagon, would they be more likely to stay there? Or would they be more likely to unvote for potential town points?
FOS
@ Fancy and GeorgeBailey.
In the heat of an early game, if no one is paying close attention, a careless vote/vote for fun can suddenly turn into a majority vote and an immediate mislynch. Not very likely, but not something that should be a threat on the first page of a game. Scum can either sit here or back off; are you implying the vote was scum stacked here?
In post 33, Vorkuta wrote:I voted because that's literally the only way to make progress @D1.
Jokes aside, Sus's reaction to said wagon and the follow up interrogation gets him townpoints from me.
But like... come on guys, show a tiny bit of common sense with these questions
What specifically about his reaction makes you give him town points?
If suspicious is scum, I could see him as an easy early bus for easy distance. But the wagon moved pretty fast, so perhaps his partner got scared and backed off?
Bussing this early makes no sense; a flip wouldn't give any credibility or implicate anyone. There's no benefit for that play, and realistically a lynch on page 1 is highly unlikely; I don't think a strategy would hinge on that.
the alternative requires actually putting in effort
Works well for me, nice way out of RVS, been doing it for quite a while, dont see any issues with it (aside from inadvertantly helping put someone at L-1 by page 1)
Also I like my wagons
Anyways, the reason I didn't do an immediate unvote, is because I don't think the others realized we were putting
Suspicious
at L-1/L-2.
Also,
Fancy's
post and mine are 1 minute apart. Gimme slack here.
Zenith's
naked vote against
Suspicious
seemed strange, and I wanna chalk it up to RVS, but the post was barren of any flavour/reasoning/anything.
VOTE: Zenith
I wanna hear from you bud.
I'll allow slack on the timing since it is narrow, but I won't dismiss the possibility that it was made to seek credibility. #12 comes across as pretty LAMIST in hindsight. The reasoning behind not immediately unvoting was based on gauging the reactions of others I suppose? And then making the judgement call to back off when they did not. If I'm misinterpreting then let me know.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:59 pm
by Plotinus
Antarctic Beech
Mod notes:
iamveryserious has another (expired on 2019-10-17 11:15:00) to remember mafiascum exists before I start looking for a replacement.[/area]
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:44 pm
by tictac
In post 24, tictac wrote:Zen & serious: How much mafia experience do ya have?
VOTE: Zenith
I do like my questions answered.
@Balley I'd like yer answer to this as well.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:42 pm
by Vorkuta
VOTE: CJ
The more pages that pass without him making a first post, the townie he is.
This was too early.
In post 24, tictac wrote:Zen & serious: How much mafia experience do ya have?
VOTE: Zenith
I do like my questions answered.
@Balley I'd like yer answer to this as well.
@january u too. Also welcome.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:52 pm
by FancyPants
In post 43, Suspicious wrote:
I'll allow slack on the timing since it is narrow, but I won't dismiss the possibility
that it was made to seek credibility
. #12 comes across as pretty LAMIST in hindsight. The reasoning behind not immediately unvoting was based on gauging the reactions of others I suppose? And then making the judgement call to back off when they did not. If I'm misinterpreting then let me know.
@ Suspicious, can you elaborate on the bolded part? Specifically go through the scum mindset you are seeing here.
In post 46, Vorkuta wrote:VOTE: CJ
The more pages that pass without him making a first post, the townie he is.
This was too early.
@Vorkuta, I'm unclear what you mean by the above statement, can you clarify?