White Flag - TM2020

[Formerfish]

Shit!

[Formerfish]

Sorry guys, i fucked up my entrance. Im going to just go home.

[Formerfish]

VOTE: Dann

Anyone not voting here is scum or town that needs to die.

[Formerfish]

@everyone, why did everyone choose this game?

The rest of my team didnt want to play in this one and I didnt want to play in the large at all. This one kinda fits the way I play better since some of my best games have been as a VT fighting everyone and figuring out the scum team and then taking them out in lylo/mylo for the win. No need to thank me, its just what I do. Win fucking games. Check my iso for confirmation.

[Dannflor]

Why’d you choose to vote me, FF?

[Formerfish]

Will you answer this too?

I didn't I wanted to be in the other open game, but I think I was too heavy handed my own personal blacklist and bob got pushed into it instead
I specifically didn't want this game because it is

particularly difficult to win as town

I dont agree with this. I think that white flag forces us to actually play the game instead of waiting for people with night actions to point us in the right direction. We have to play differently here and part of that is going to be how much we fight with each other. And thats not to mean we cant disagree, but we should know right now that there is almost no chance that we arent going to mislynch at some point. What we need to look at is the VCA and the wagons of the day prior to inform the wagons and lynches of the days to come. Even a mislynch is going to net us info, and the more info we have the better we see the full puzzle of whos working with the town and whos working against it.

[Formerfish]

i was in white flag last team mafia, and i'm a creature of habit. plus, i was never taking the large theme, didn't really want a normal and i told RC i wanted white flag before the open setup was revealed and so that's what he put me for.

VOTE: wgeurts

This is a third for wgeurts and the second i think that was naked.

You guys got beef?

[Formerfish]

hi nsg im excited to finally play a game with you

big fan

[Dannflor]

I voted for wgeurts because I liked KittyMo’s entrance and wanted to build a wagon, and wagons good blah blah blah

[Formerfish]

I suspect the team aspect can fix some of the issues that cause towns to do worse in practice.

Hopefully like peoples teammates telling them to pull theirs heads out of their asses when theyve made shitty reads theyve settled into tunneling...

Making sure they play mostly without working against town.

Flip side, i think it makes finding scum a little harder without more data. The scum team basically has 9 other people to help them out with their games as well.

[Formerfish]

Why’d you choose to vote me, FF?

Pine v Ali. I just wanna be able to say I pegged you on day one when you eventually snow the shit out of us all.

[Dannflor]

I feel like my scum game is overrated

but that’s just me

[Formerfish]

I voted for wgeurts because I liked KittyMo’s entrance and wanted to build a wagon, and wagons good blah blah blah

What about Kittys open was more appealing that Cephs? Both were first votes on people and both had witty remarks to catch appeal. The big fan comment to NSG after she voted with you guys is something that pings me too. Like you are trying to gain her favor by pandering to her after she sheeped your sheep.

[Formerfish]

I feel like my scum game is overrated

but that’s just me

Im a sucker for recency bias.

[KittyMo]

VOTE: Dann

Anyone not voting here is scum or town that needs to die.

I think he's pretty likeable so far. Whether that's worthy of an actual read is most of what I had to mull before you blew up the thread.

[Dannflor]

It was more post #10 than her opening opening that I liked. Just a gut “hey that feels genuine” ping but gotta go off something.

I thought people might interpret that as me trying to pocket nsg or something but really I’m just a fanboy. Also don’t think that post realistically does anything to “gain favor” with a player of her caliber (oops I’m doing it again).

[Formerfish]

VOTE: Dann

Anyone not voting here is scum or town that needs to die.

I think he's pretty likeable so far. Whether that's worthy of an actual read is most of what I had to mull before you blew up the thread.

He has, but he also seemed fine as a fucking evil tree in a forest of lies.

[Formerfish]

It was more post #10 than her opening opening that I liked. Just a gut “hey that feels genuine” ping but gotta go off something.

I thought people might interpret that as me trying to pocket nsg or something but really I’m just a fanboy. Also don’t think that post realistically does anything to “gain favor” with a player of her caliber (oops I’m doing it again).

I did take that as a bit of fanboyism, hence my big fan post. I didn't take it as AI at all though, just unsure of the sentiment.

About Kitty mo- The below post is the one you got town feels from? If anything it pinged me slightly scummy because of the bolded part. I kinda felt like this was her subconsciously admitting to being afraid of being investigated and found out to be scum, so knowing that she couldnt have that happen here to her would be a benefit to her.

@everyone, why did everyone choose this game?

Lots of reasons! I like smaller games, I'm more interested in the day game as both alignments, and I don't have to worry as much about not knowing the current site meta of closed game design. I also like not having to stress over whether my top scumread is going to turn out to be an

investigative PR

(this happens to me well above chance).

Will you answer this too?

[Dannflor]

Eh, I don’t read her stressing about read accuracy as subconscious scum paranoia. The investigative PR name drop just seems coincidental.

I liked how instead of just answering the free question she turned it back around on rooster boi too.

[KittyMo]

I kinda felt like this was her subconsciously admitting to being afraid of being investigated and found out to be scum, so knowing that she couldnt have that happen here to her would be a benefit to her.

That's not my baggage; the last time I even specifically recall being the target of an investigative role was in 2009. I can dig up proof that I have a problem trying to hang PRs if that's of interest.

[Formerfish]

I kinda felt like this was her subconsciously admitting to being afraid of being investigated and found out to be scum, so knowing that she couldnt have that happen here to her would be a benefit to her.

That's not my baggage; the last time I even specifically recall being the target of an investigative role was in 2009. I can dig up proof that I have a problem trying to hang PRs if that's of interest.

Do you have problems differentiating between big dick town PRs and nasty scum bois?

[Cephrir]

@everyone, why did everyone choose this game?

I just told my team to not give me the open and this is how things turned out

[Cephrir]

When I saw how active FF was being I thought I would have a townread on him by the time I caught up, but I don't!

[Formerfish]

When I saw how active FF was being I thought I would have a townread on him by the time I caught up, but I don't!

Shrug

[Dannflor]

When I saw how active FF was being I thought I would have a townread on him by the time I caught up, but I don't!

I would sort of expect this kind of comment to be accompanied by a vote, is there a reason it's not?