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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:26 pm
by Datisi
Official Vote Count 1.01
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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching
Amrun
(2): GuiltyLion, Jake The Wolfie
ObviousScum
(1): Amrun
Hectic
(1): emps

Not Voting
(5): Iconeum, Hectic, GeogreBailey, Non lmh, ObviousScum

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-01-28 01:30:00).

Mod notes:
  • Iconeum has another (expired on 2020-01-22 19:00:57) to confirm before I look for a replacement.
  • Iconeum standing V/LA weekends.
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:26 pm
by Hectic
In post 16, emps wrote:VOTE: hectic

things are going to be
hectic
with you around
There's a number of reasons emps could post this. But my leading theory is that he knows I'm a big threat for scum!him this game. We have quite the history together, so I would expect him to know I'm town by now; especially given that Obum case I just posted which quite frankly makes me Obwn.
So for him to vote me regardless here? Busted, emps.

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:27 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 24, Hectic wrote:
In post 12, ObviousScum wrote:I had no context and no reason to assume it was a joke!

I thought it sounded serious, and if there was some baggage between you two I think it'd be good to clear the air rather than dance around it.
Obum sounds very defensive here. I could see this being scum being caught out very early. Notice the spacing in his two sentences? If he was enraged and distraught as his exclamation mark suggests, he shouldn't have the damn time to separate his sentences like that. And the second sentence sounds a lot more composed than the first. Robot who can turn his emotions on and off on the flick of a switch? Or SCUM?
Scum is my conclusion - if that wasn't clear.
No, I think that they're really an intelligent AI system that perfectly replicated how scum acts, but is actually a Quack Doctor. No wonder they seem crazy.

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:28 pm
by Hectic
In post 15, ObviousScum wrote:You got me, I am obvious scum :)
Deflection and then
In post 18, ObviousScum wrote:I'm leaning toward agreeing with massclaiming actions before night but I'm still not sure what ways town could be punished for it, I feel like there's the potential for a lot of confusion and a maximum potential of four possible deaths? Are we going to be able to make sense of night actions even with day 1 target claim?
straight to the safe topic of setup spec?

Not looking good for you, Obum my friend. Except I don't dabble in friendship with SCUM.

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:30 pm
by Hectic
In post 27, Jake The Wolfie wrote:No, I think that they're really an intelligent AI system that perfectly replicated how scum acts, but is actually a Quack Doctor. No wonder they seem crazy.
Huh, I hadn't actually considered that. Townie points to Jake for seeing that; I think it's a lot harder for scum to come to this conclusion given you need to be DEEP inside a townie mindset to see this.

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:32 pm
by GeorgeBailey
VOTE: Hectic

Because these puns are gonna be
Hectic

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:34 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 29, Hectic wrote:
In post 27, Jake The Wolfie wrote:No, I think that they're really an intelligent AI system that perfectly replicated how scum acts, but is actually a Quack Doctor. No wonder they seem crazy.
Huh, I hadn't actually considered that. Townie points to Jake for seeing that; I think it's a lot harder for scum to come to this conclusion given you need to be DEEP inside a townie mindset to see this.
No, you just need to be a Quack Doctor who is also a Cannibal who just so happen to come across a townie.

...not that i happen to do that.

In any case, I want to know how we could try and solve what doctors we might be.

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:34 pm
by Hectic
In post 8, GuiltyLion wrote:VOTE: Amrun

Hi Amrun!

I meant to read old runs of this setup and only got through one of them, but what are you all's thoughts on claiming targets in advance
Did you make that decision before or after receiving your role PM?

Guilty gives me a soothing feel, he's smiling and always has his hand in your pocket, letting you know he's there. It's quite comforting.

What troubles me is him asking for our opinion on claiming targets in advance, rather than giving his own. Given you read HALF a game through, I'd have thought you'd have some opinions of your own, right? I do love your fur though, so I hope we can still be acquainted.

VOTE: Obum

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:40 pm
by Hectic
In post 30, GeorgeBailey wrote:VOTE: Hectic

Because these puns are gonna be
Hectic
Odd. I have some good cases out there; nothing to say about them,
George?
If that really is your name.

All of George's posts this game have been entirely focused on myself. It's scummy, and a little obsessive if I'm being honest.

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:40 pm
by emps
In post 18, ObviousScum wrote:I'm leaning toward agreeing with massclaiming actions before night but I'm still not sure what ways town could be punished for it, I feel like there's the potential for a lot of confusion and a maximum potential of four possible deaths? Are we going to be able to make sense of night actions even with day 1 target claim?
its probably technically optimal to just
not
use our night actions?

but like who signs up for a bastard game to talk mechanics smh

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:41 pm
by ObviousScum
VOTE: Hectic

Hmm this looks like trying too hard

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:42 pm
by ObviousScum
In post 34, emps wrote:its probably technically optimal to just not use our night actions?

but like who signs up for a bastard game to talk mechanics smh
Pretty much agreed on both points

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:43 pm
by Hectic
In post 31, Jake The Wolfie wrote:No, you just need to be a Quack Doctor who is also a Cannibal who just so happen to come across a townie.

...not that i happen to do that.

In any case, I want to know how we could try and solve what doctors we might be.
Claiming targets before end of night seems good. We should probably divide them among towniest players as to not give scum any guaranteed shots at towners.

Did your profile pic use to be red? I recall it being a lot more menacing before.

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:44 pm
by emps
In post 26, Hectic wrote:
In post 16, emps wrote:VOTE: hectic

things are going to be
hectic
with you around
There's a number of reasons emps could post this. But my leading theory is that he knows I'm a big threat for scum!him this game. We have quite the history together, so I would expect him to know I'm town by now; especially given that Obum case I just posted which quite frankly makes me Obwn.
So for him to vote me regardless here? Busted, emps.
hectic wtf we arent supposed to bus remember

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:45 pm
by emps
In post 35, ObviousScum wrote:VOTE: Hectic

Hmm this looks like trying too hard
have you ever played with hectic before?

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:46 pm
by emps
what if we just all target the same person? like all of the doctors target the same guy

what happens then?

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:48 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 37, Hectic wrote:
In post 31, Jake The Wolfie wrote:No, you just need to be a Quack Doctor who is also a Cannibal who just so happen to come across a townie.

...not that i happen to do that.

In any case, I want to know how we could try and solve what doctors we might be.
Claiming targets before end of night seems good. We should probably divide them among towniest players as to not give scum any guaranteed shots at towners.

Did your profile pic use to be red? I recall it being a lot more menacing before.
Ye

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:49 pm
by emps
In post 40, emps wrote:what if we just all target the same person? like all of the doctors target the same guy

what happens then?
i tried to think of what would happen but i forgot that doctors arent supposed to target themselves sooooo

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:51 pm
by Hectic
Wow, Emps trying to drag me down with him when he inevitably flips scum. Dirty tactics. Check the PT if you have one, which I don't.

Looking over the setup again, we actually want to spread the checks out on suspects, 3 of them are good for targeting scum with (2 vig shots and a jailkeep).

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:52 pm
by ObviousScum
In post 40, emps wrote:what if we just all target the same person? like all of the doctors target the same guy

what happens then?
depends on if that person is town or scum

if town then only the nightkill target of scum dies and we get an IC in the collective target, and then we have to figure out if a second death is a scum kill or the weak doctor

if scum, then weak doctor dies, and then if second death occurs then the target is confscum, which means scum are likely to no kill to make it unclear and prevent the IC

it does keep the number of deaths to a minimum though so there's some merit in the idea

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:53 pm
by ObviousScum
In post 42, emps wrote:
In post 40, emps wrote:what if we just all target the same person? like all of the doctors target the same guy

what happens then?
i tried to think of what would happen but i forgot that doctors arent supposed to target themselves sooooo
true, this is another problem. if the one being targeted is a real doctor, then that throws off the math and creates more confusion as well

in addition to the fact that trying to get the entire town to agree to target someone is probably just not going to happen

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:54 pm
by Hectic
That'd be a really good idea if we could self-target.

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:54 pm
by ObviousScum
In post 39, emps wrote:have you ever played with hectic before?
this isn't a meta argument

do you think he is town off meta?

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:55 pm
by emps
In post 43, Hectic wrote:Check the PT if you have one, which I don't.
lynch all liars

VOTE: hectic

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:56 pm
by emps
In post 47, ObviousScum wrote:
In post 39, emps wrote:have you ever played with hectic before?
this isn't a meta argument

do you think he is town off meta?
uh he memes a lot and if you couldnt tell most of his posts so far have been memeing