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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:34 am
by Riabi
Hey!

I'm back on the site after a few years away.

Because of my absence, I'm a bit rusty, and I'm not sure I understand the logic of hardclaiming a Mason so early. Would someone mind explaining that to me?

Until I have a better understanding of that

VOTE: Saudade

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:39 am
by Looker
In post 10, Saudade wrote:i hardclaim mason
In post 11, Saudade wrote:also i am brilliant
O wow, you're back. At least this won't be boring.

  • @Egix: Why did you get rid of the Growlithe?
VOTE: riabi

p-edit: Aw fack lol

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:46 am
by Zantetsu
In post 23, profii wrote:I do however, hard claim informed that there are no masons in this game.
It's very important that you be clear about whether this was an RVS joke or if you are making this claim for real.

So which is it?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:43 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Sausage makes this early mason claim in every game of his. Just pretend you're impressed and say he's a funny boi. That should make him feel validated.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:45 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 25, Riabi wrote:Because of my absence, I'm a bit rusty, and I'm not sure I understand the logic of hardclaiming a Mason so early. Would someone mind explaining that to me?

Until I have a better understanding of that

VOTE: Saudade
Is that the third vote on a shitwagon?
VOTE: Riabi

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:48 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Churros how far have you progressed in that game you recommended me? I've beat Suguri's campaign.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:52 am
by Zantetsu
In post 28, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Sausage makes this early mason claim in every game of his. Just pretend you're impressed and say he's a funny boi. That should make him feel validated.
Yes it was my impression that it was a joke too. But I think it would have been better to let the players involved talk their way out of it then deflate the situation yourself.

Don't you think it would have been better for Saudade to answer for himself?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:06 am
by Anotora
So, Zantetsu, you knew that it might be a joke but kept rolefishing anyways? I don't like it.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:15 am
by Zantetsu
In post 32, Anotora wrote:So, Zantetsu, you knew that it might be a joke but kept rolefishing anyways? I don't like it.
Where was I rolefishing?

I didn't
know
it was a joke, I thought it was a joke. But since I didn't
know
I was going to let the players involved speak for themselves.

Also you've already accepted profii's claim so from your perspective there is no need for any roles to be fished.

So what is your point again exactly?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:22 am
by Battle Mage
In post 29, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 25, Riabi wrote:Because of my absence, I'm a bit rusty, and I'm not sure I understand the logic of hardclaiming a Mason so early. Would someone mind explaining that to me?

Until I have a better understanding of that

VOTE: Saudade
Is that the third vote on a shitwagon?
VOTE: Riabi
Did someone say third vote on a shitwagon?
Vote: Riabi
:lol:

Though seriously, I can't believe for a second that Riabi actually believed that was a genuine claim.

I just read some of a completed game featuring Saudade. He claimed scum, got lynched, was town. Nuff said.

However more interestingly, Norweg was scum in that game, and was very excited to bandwagon him. Different tone and vibe here, so initial read is town.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:26 am
by Zantetsu
In post 34, Battle Mage wrote: However more interestingly, Norweg was scum in that game, and was very excited to bandwagon him. Different tone and vibe here, so initial read is town.
So you think Norwegian is a bad enough player that he doesn't use his town tone when playing as scum?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:27 am
by Zantetsu
In post 34, Battle Mage wrote:Though seriously, I can't believe for a second that Riabi actually believed that was a genuine claim.
Anotora apparently believed it though. What do you make of that?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:35 am
by Battle Mage
In post 31, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 28, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Sausage makes this early mason claim in every game of his. Just pretend you're impressed and say he's a funny boi. That should make him feel validated.
Yes it was my impression that it was a joke too. But I think it would have been better to let the players involved talk their way out of it then deflate the situation yourself.

Don't you think it would have been better for Saudade to answer for himself?
Unless I'm mistaken, you didn't actually ask Saudade anything...

In fact, I don't really understand why you didn't, when you were very adamant that you wanted Profii to confirm there were no masons in the game, for some reason?? :eek:

Unvote, Vote: Zantetsu
for being a bit overly aggressive and defensive for page 2.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:42 am
by Zantetsu
In post 37, Battle Mage wrote:Unless I'm mistaken, you didn't actually ask Saudade anything...
Answer for himself with regards to essentially being called a liar by Profii for "claiming" Mason.
In post 37, Battle Mage wrote:In fact, I don't really understand why you didn't, when you were very adamant that you wanted Profii to confirm there were no masons in the game, for some reason??
Because I didn't expect Saudade to need to be prompted to answer given that he was already essentially challenged by Profii.

Profii, on the other hand, needs to clarify why he is counterclaiming what was a pretty obvious fake RVS claim. Hence my question to him.

But I thought all of this was obvious already? Why wasn't this obvious already?
In post 37, Battle Mage wrote:Unvote, Vote: Zantetsu for being a bit overly aggressive and defensive for page 2.
I'd be interested in hearing what others have to say about this vote.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:43 am
by Battle Mage
In post 35, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 34, Battle Mage wrote: However more interestingly, Norweg was scum in that game, and was very excited to bandwagon him. Different tone and vibe here, so initial read is town.
So you think Norwegian is a bad enough player that he doesn't use his town tone when playing as scum?
I didn't infer he was a bad player - identifying differences in people's play (tells) as town or scum, is part of the game. :cop:
In post 36, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 34, Battle Mage wrote:Though seriously, I can't believe for a second that Riabi actually believed that was a genuine claim.
Anotora apparently believed it though. What do you make of that?
Actually Anotora specifically said they didn't believe it. What convinces you otherwise?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:48 am
by Battle Mage
In post 38, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 37, Battle Mage wrote:Unless I'm mistaken, you didn't actually ask Saudade anything...
Answer for himself with regards to essentially being called a liar by Profii for "claiming" Mason.
In post 37, Battle Mage wrote:In fact, I don't really understand why you didn't, when you were very adamant that you wanted Profii to confirm there were no masons in the game, for some reason??
Because I didn't expect Saudade to need to be prompted to answer given that he was already essentially challenged by Profii.

Profii, on the other hand, needs to clarify why he is counterclaiming what was a pretty obvious fake RVS claim. Hence my question to him.

But I thought all of this was obvious already? Why wasn't this obvious already?
In post 37, Battle Mage wrote:Unvote, Vote: Zantetsu for being a bit overly aggressive and defensive for page 2.
I'd be interested in hearing what others have to say about this vote.
I think you've read waaaaayyyy too much into people joking around on page 1. Did you really think Saudade's claim was legit? If so, I'll put you in the same category as Riabi.

Definitely welcome comments on my vote! :mrgreen:

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:49 am
by Saudade
I am mason and all the non believers will be hanged like its 1543

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:49 am
by Anotora
I see no particular reason to believe Riabi is being any less genuine than myself. Given we're both recent returners to the site we're probably equally unfamiliar with Saudade's meta. I guess it's on me to read up on it now, though.

In any case, joke or no, I consider Saudade's behavior so far to be anti-town, an unproductive distraction at best, so my vote stays until I can get better reads.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:49 am
by Saudade
In post 28, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Sausage makes this early mason claim in every game of his. Just pretend you're impressed and say he's a funny boi. That should make him feel validated.
Stupid weeb didnt you learn after last game

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:50 am
by Saudade
Watch me wagon scum d1 again peasant

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:51 am
by Zantetsu
In post 39, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 36, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 34, Battle Mage wrote:Though seriously, I can't believe for a second that Riabi actually believed that was a genuine claim.
Anotora apparently believed it though. What do you make of that?
Actually Anotora specifically said they didn't believe it. What convinces you otherwise?
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Anotora believed that Saudade's claim was real, not a fake RVS claim. They (
Andora - why do you make me use that pronoun? It's so ridiculously inconvenient)
also believed that Profii's counterclaim was real. Otherwise there is no justification for Andora's vote on Saudade.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:51 am
by Saudade
In post 25, Riabi wrote:Hey!

I'm back on the site after a few years away.

Because of my absence, I'm a bit rusty, and I'm not sure I understand the logic of hardclaiming a Mason so early. Would someone mind explaining that to me?

Until I have a better understanding of that

VOTE: Saudade
Out of all the reactions or the reactions to my claim this one feels the odd one out

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:55 am
by Churros
In post 20, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Hi everyone, how’s it going y’all? Just popping in to show that i am indeed reading the game and participating in the discussion. I see we’re all making RVS votes, well that is totally cool. I can do that too, as evidenced by my vote below. Always such a good time playing together with the brilliant players at Mafia scum tehe~
Hope you all have a nice day and a big greeting to you all~!
VOTE: 72offsuit
I'm glad you rolled town Norwe.

Yes, 7 out of 10 times I think you post this as town rather than scum.

I'm playing this casually so I'll throw a TR already on you. If you're scum I think I'm gonna sense it by some point.
In post 21, Saudade wrote:what the fuck is the above post
A gem.

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:59 am
by Riabi
In post 46, Saudade wrote:
In post 25, Riabi wrote:Hey!

I'm back on the site after a few years away.

Because of my absence, I'm a bit rusty, and I'm not sure I understand the logic of hardclaiming a Mason so early. Would someone mind explaining that to me?

Until I have a better understanding of that

VOTE: Saudade
Out of all the reactions or the reactions to my claim this one feels the odd one out
Why is that? What about my post feels off to you?

Additionally, care to explain what the logic behind your claim (assuming it's true) is?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:59 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 44, Saudade wrote:Watch me wagon scum d1 again peasant
In post 43, Saudade wrote:
In post 28, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Sausage makes this early mason claim in every game of his. Just pretend you're impressed and say he's a funny boi. That should make him feel validated.
Stupid weeb didnt you learn after last game
Forgive me my liege.