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In post 25, nomnomnom wrote:pagetop

In post 28, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I thought you weren't gonna RVS?

-Smart

RVS Doesn't Mean You're Supposed to be Random

Okay...how do I say this without coming across more pompous than usual...I...I think that a vast majority of players of Mafia are fething lackwits who don't know what they're supposed to do at game start.

Yeah, that about sums it up. Sadly.

Look, the term RVS does stand for 'Random Voting Stage'. Yes, I get that. I understand. However, the reason it was called that was because to outsiders/newbies back in the day seeing it for the first time it *appeared* random. It was anything but. Really, what it should be called is LIVS, 'low information voting stage'. You don't have a lot of info available, and, yeah, maybe your first vote reasons are indeed because you hate someone's avatar. but you're (theoretically) placing that vote to see reactions to it. Who else votes that player? Who avoids voting them? Who tries to build a wagon? Who avoids this? How does the player react to your vote? Who do they vote? All of that, ALL OF IT, is information, info for the town to assess both Day 1 and later in the game.

What RVS is *not* is a stage where you're supposed to dork around doing nothing for whatever arbitrary amount of pages you think are supposed to be the "fun" pages. That's called pre and post game. Once voting starts the game has started. You're allowed (and I suppose, encouraged) to have fun. I usually do myself. But I *don't* support having fun to the detriment of scumhunting, because that is stupid.

Your vote isn't random. You have placed it for a reason and so has everyone else.

The more you try to make it random the more you are helping scum, because scum like low information voting, because it helps them. Which day do scum have the most ability to mislynch town? Day 1 - due to lack of info.

Therefore, the only sane thing, the only pro-town thing, the only good play thing to do - IS TO PREVENT THE LOW INFORMATION STAGE FROM LASTING ANY LONGER THAN IT HAS TO.

Or...I guess you can have "fun" and joke, and fight any wagons simply because you apparently don't know how to use PMs or a General thread, or a signup thread, or post game to interact with players you like.

RVS isn't random.

Get over your silly selves.

In post 28, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I thought you weren't gonna RVS?

In post 30, Auro wrote:

RVS Doesn't Mean You're Supposed to be Random

Okay...how do I say this without coming across more pompous than usual...I...I think that a vast majority of players of Mafia are fething lackwits who don't know what they're supposed to do at game start.

Yeah, that about sums it up. Sadly.

Look, the term RVS does stand for 'Random Voting Stage'. Yes, I get that. I understand. However, the reason it was called that was because to outsiders/newbies back in the day seeing it for the first time it *appeared* random. It was anything but. Really, what it should be called is LIVS, 'low information voting stage'. You don't have a lot of info available, and, yeah, maybe your first vote reasons are indeed because you hate someone's avatar. but you're (theoretically) placing that vote to see reactions to it. Who else votes that player? Who avoids voting them? Who tries to build a wagon? Who avoids this? How does the player react to your vote? Who do they vote? All of that, ALL OF IT, is information, info for the town to assess both Day 1 and later in the game.

What RVS is *not* is a stage where you're supposed to dork around doing nothing for whatever arbitrary amount of pages you think are supposed to be the "fun" pages. That's called pre and post game. Once voting starts the game has started. You're allowed (and I suppose, encouraged) to have fun. I usually do myself. But I *don't* support having fun to the detriment of scumhunting, because that is stupid.

Your vote isn't random. You have placed it for a reason and so has everyone else.

The more you try to make it random the more you are helping scum, because scum like low information voting, because it helps them. Which day do scum have the most ability to mislynch town? Day 1 - due to lack of info.

Therefore, the only sane thing, the only pro-town thing, the only good play thing to do - IS TO PREVENT THE LOW INFORMATION STAGE FROM LASTING ANY LONGER THAN IT HAS TO.

Or...I guess you can have "fun" and joke, and fight any wagons simply because you apparently don't know how to use PMs or a General thread, or a signup thread, or post game to interact with players you like.

RVS isn't random.

Get over your silly selves.

In post 34, nomnomnom wrote:Karnage on a scale of 1 to 10 how scared are you of my scumgame?

In post 33, Karnage wrote:I should correct myself. My vote isn't random. its Low Information

In post 37, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:

In post 33, Karnage wrote:I should correct myself. My vote isn't random. its Low Information

I’d like to hear your thoughts on nom too.

In post 13, Eve wrote:howdy i have mechanical reasons to wish to be on all wagons

VOTE: BBMolla

In post 1058, Kirari Momobami wrote:I do think failing to pick up on obvious jokes can reflect cognitive load, and scum generally has greater cognitive load than town

In post 37, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I’d like to hear your thoughts on nom too.

The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:Hey Auro, can you talk about your nom vote?

Also Smart you totally could have taken the pagetop don’t make me bus you

-Smarter

In post 42, Auro wrote:

In post 1058, Kirari Momobami wrote:I do think failing to pick up on obvious jokes can reflect cognitive load, and scum generally has greater cognitive load than town

VOTE: Something_Smart

In post 43, Karnage wrote:

In post 37, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I’d like to hear your thoughts on nom too.

I don't like the 2 naked votes then a "pagetop"

I would like to see them get more involved in the game

In post 40, Allomancer wrote:Vote her with me Smart

In post 41, Allomancer wrote:Oh I just realized that Smarter is different than Smart.

Correction: Vote her with me Smarter

In post 44, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:Nah, I got the joke. The post still pinged me.

In post 45, nomnomnom wrote:

In post 44, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:Nah, I got the joke. The post still pinged me.

What's the part that pinged you?

In post 29, nomnomnom wrote:

In post 28, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I thought you weren't gonna RVS?

-Smart

I have the feeling this isn't random.
Just a feeling.

In post 43, Karnage wrote:

In post 37, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I’d like to hear your thoughts on nom too.

I don't like the 2 naked votes then a "pagetop"

I would like to see them get more involved in the game

In post 39, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:

In post 13, Eve wrote:howdy i have mechanical reasons to wish to be on all wagons

VOTE: BBMolla

This is pinging me

-Smarter

In post 42, Auro wrote:

In post 1058, Kirari Momobami wrote:I do think failing to pick up on obvious jokes can reflect cognitive load, and scum generally has greater cognitive load than town

VOTE: Something_Smart

In post 47, acryon wrote:Literally just completed page 1 and you had an issue with someone's involvement in the game already?