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Day 1 VC #2

Umlaut (3): Klick (21), Zulfy (22), valoneast (23)
Hoctac (1): Persivul (24)

Persivul (4) (L-3): farside22 (6), LuckyLuciano (8), SirCakez (9), Hoctac (10)

Atarashi Hajimari (0):
LuckyLuciano (1): Umlaut (15)
farside22 (0):
Not Voting (4): Reundo, clidd, Ragman Saul Rima, Atarashi Hajimari

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on May 19, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-05-19 13:00:00).

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2. This game will use a combination of manual and automated votecounts. (The automated ones are made using MathBlade's Vote Scrubber.) I will mainly start by posting an automated votecount and then edit in a manual one later. This allows me to spot errors in the automated votecount as well as build the voting history for the game.
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Yet another page 1 hammer opportunity wasted.

In post 24, Persivul wrote:VOTE: Hoctac

I hate that shit.

What shit do you hate exactly?

In post 27, Umlaut wrote:

In post 24, Persivul wrote:VOTE: Hoctac

I hate that shit.

What shit do you hate exactly?

Goofing around about claims.

And you think that's alignment-indicative, and a person who goofs around about claims on page 1 is more likely to be scum?

In post 14, LuckyLuciano wrote:This is the second opportunity since I've joined the site for a D1 lynch. Make it happen people! (I will not be posting for the rest of page one, in order to support the cause.)

In post 26, LuckyLuciano wrote:Yet another page 1 hammer opportunity wasted.

This is strange coming from you, Luciano. In the games in which we participated together, your instance at the beginning of D1 was always more logical and pragmatic. This sudden change with comic content is not something that the profile of your playstyle suggests, at least as far as I can see.

VOTE: LuckyLuciano

Persivul is narrow-minded. SCUM is narrow-minded.

In post 30, clidd wrote:

In post 14, LuckyLuciano wrote:This is the second opportunity since I've joined the site for a D1 lynch. Make it happen people! (I will not be posting for the rest of page one, in order to support the cause.)

In post 26, LuckyLuciano wrote:Yet another page 1 hammer opportunity wasted.

This is strange coming from you, Luciano. In the games in which we participated together, your instance at the beginning of D1 was always more logical and pragmatic. This sudden change with comic content is not something that the profile of your playstyle suggests, at least as far as I can see.

VOTE: LuckyLuciano

That's funny considering you were in Newbie 1995 and yet you noted my "comedic content" in RVS.

UNVOTE: Persi. VOTE: Clidd.

In post 32, LuckyLuciano wrote: That's funny considering you were in Newbie 1995 and yet you noted my "comedic content" in RVS.

UNVOTE: Persi. VOTE: Clidd.

I'm waiting for your towntell.

Me too.

Another observation: the purpose of your post did not seem to clarify a misunderstanding, but to reverse the positions to make an attack. This is a classic scum mentality and you probably know that.

I have literally mirrored my opening to a game we both played in, where I was town, nearly post-by-post. You are scumreading me for doing literally the same thing you have seen me do before, as town. I was going to label this move, "calling out a player making up a reason to attack me that they know to be false". I supposed I will take you input into consideration, as "Advanced OMGUS" rolls off the tongue slightly better.

You're copying your town game so scum-reading you is scum?

That's unequivocally the worst interpretation of my interaction with Clidd possible. Scum-reading me for being comic in my opening, when he's seen me be comic in my opening before, is scummy.

In post 39, LuckyLuciano wrote:That's unequivocally the worst interpretation of my interaction with Clidd possible. Scum-reading me for being comic in my opening, when he's seen me be comic in my opening before, is scummy.

Why are you assuming I have a scumread on you ? the image you gave in our past games is much more logical than joking with votes on a playerlist that you don't know (besides Hajimari). What triggered an *alert*, in my opinion, was the way you reacted to that, which would be totally different from the Town!Luciano perspective that I imagine.

Post 36 has you frustrated that copying your town game still has someone see you as scummy. What that Town Game is doesn't matter to me. Post 36 does, though.

. Maybe rephrasing in italics will help Zulfy's eyes function properly.

In post 40, clidd wrote:

In post 39, LuckyLuciano wrote:That's unequivocally the worst interpretation of my interaction with Clidd possible. Scum-reading me for being comic in my opening, when he's seen me be comic in my opening before, is scummy.

Why are you assuming I have a scumread on you ?

the image you gave in our past games is much more logical than joking with votes on a playerlist that you don't know (besides Hajimari). What triggered an *alert*, in my opinion, was the way you reacted to that, which would be totally different from the Town!Luciano perspective that I imagine.

In post 30, clidd wrote:

In post 14, LuckyLuciano wrote:This is the second opportunity since I've joined the site for a D1 lynch. Make it happen people! (I will not be posting for the rest of page one, in order to support the cause.)

In post 26, LuckyLuciano wrote:Yet another page 1 hammer opportunity wasted.

This is strange coming from you, Luciano. In the games in which we participated together, your instance at the beginning of D1 was always more logical and pragmatic.

This sudden change with comic content is not something that the profile of your playstyle suggests

, at least as far as I can see.

VOTE: LuckyLuciano

In post 43, LuckyLuciano wrote:

In post 40, clidd wrote:

In post 39, LuckyLuciano wrote:That's unequivocally the worst interpretation of my interaction with Clidd possible. Scum-reading me for being comic in my opening, when he's seen me be comic in my opening before, is scummy.

Why are you assuming I have a scumread on you ?

the image you gave in our past games is much more logical than joking with votes on a playerlist that you don't know (besides Hajimari). What triggered an *alert*, in my opinion, was the way you reacted to that, which would be totally different from the Town!Luciano perspective that I imagine.

In post 30, clidd wrote:

In post 14, LuckyLuciano wrote:This is the second opportunity since I've joined the site for a D1 lynch. Make it happen people! (I will not be posting for the rest of page one, in order to support the cause.)

In post 26, LuckyLuciano wrote:Yet another page 1 hammer opportunity wasted.

This is strange coming from you, Luciano. In the games in which we participated together, your instance at the beginning of D1 was always more logical and pragmatic.

This sudden change with comic content is not something that the profile of your playstyle suggests

, at least as far as I can see.

VOTE: LuckyLuciano

Ok, and where am I saying that I have you as scumread ?

If you are trolling you are doing a good job.

In post 42, LuckyLuciano wrote:

He's not scumreading me for copying my town game. He's scum reading me for being comical in my opening. My reaction in 36 isn't frustration, it's elaboration.

. Maybe rephrasing in italics will help Zulfy's eyes function properly.

I don't care about his reasons for scumreading you or not scumreading you.
Post 36 is you saying "bah I am posting like I would be posting if I was town!" which is something that scum says. And yes it is frustration.

@Clidd, Why did you unvote me?

@Zulfy, it's not frustration. I copied my town game for a reason. That reason will be revealed later in the game. At that point you will see clear town motivation for it. If you want to argue that it's scum motivated at that point, go for it. The only thing I'm frustrated about is your clear inability to think critically.

The reason for copying your town game: to get read a certain way. However playing your town game isn't the same as copying it. If you're trying to get read a certain way by a specific player copying your town game is no guarantee of that happening.