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In post 23, 72offsuit wrote:

In post 16, DoctorPepper wrote:

In post 6, GuiltyLion wrote:first!

VOTE: DoctorPepper

Right back at ya buddy!

VOTE: GuiltyLion

-0.25 points for wasting a vote by OMGUSing voting an SE who isn;t going to tell you squat from his reaction

What does it matter that he's an SE?

Also lol found scum. Day 1 Page 1 solves are rare

Wouldn't be surprised if it was 72+Italiano.

In post 19, DoctorPepper wrote:

In post 17, ItalianoVD wrote:Looks like we're playing together again pii. What's up bud.

Oh yeah

VOTE: Micc

As a golden gopher fan, I can't believe he's broadcasting that thing in his avatar.

VOTE: Italiano

Let's leave RVS. Anyone can tell me why this vote is scummy?

I mean there's the mafia 101 explanation of "voting the mod provides no information, avoids any potential early game conflict, etc" and yeah I get it

but let's play mafia 201 - did you look at Italiano's completed game? He strikes me as a smart/capable player (his avatar also contributes to this impression ) and while it's scum!Italiano is timid/scared in RVS I don't entirely buy it as likely

VOTE: UNOwen

I don't like 24, the whole thing feels awkward and he conveniently doesn't put his actual reason for voting Italiano into words - sneaky, sneaky

i’m headed into work so i’ll be active in a few hours but i have a light tr on guiltylion for 26. i like his answer to doctorpepper for how it answers a pretty baseline question.

that being said i don’t think doctorpepper’s question itself is bad and i like the initiative to leave rvs. it just seems a bit shallow.

GL, I don't really do meta.

I mean yeah sure I'd like to see it but that's a textbook bad RVS vote.

Would like to see more from Unowen, agree with you there it seems a bit sheepy to me

I agree with your point on Owen ,but it is in the early stages.
I don't know if 26 is indicative of anything yet.

To add on it is a good post though.
Having a busy morning with my doodles so far.

In post 30, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:I agree with your point on Owen ,but it is in the early stages.

Can you explain why you think 'early stages' makes it less meaningful of a point? Scum are scum whether it's the early game or the late game, I've caught scum off of one post before.

What would be the harm in your mind voting for Owen right now?

In post 27, GuiltyLion wrote:VOTE: UNOwen

I don't like 24, the whole thing feels awkward and he conveniently doesn't put his actual reason for voting Italiano into words - sneaky, sneaky

I thought it was fairly obvious why I voted Italiano. Suspicious post + page 1 = vote and see how people react. What do you suppose my reason was?

I mean that I need to see more posts from him before I decide.
There is none except to acquire more and better reads.
I find it difficult to read someone off of a single post rather than their totality.
I don't doubt your skills.
But I would vote for him if this posting style continues and it still seems scummy.

@unowen: what about italiano’s post made you think it was suspicious?

In post 35, Ydrasse wrote:@unowen: what about italiano’s post made you think it was suspicious?

He voted the mod, minimizing engagement. If I had reasons beyond what DrPepper was clearly getting at I would have included them with my vote. It's not a slam dunk but definitely a better vote than random.

I gather you don't agree that the mod vote was notable?

In post 36, UNOwen wrote:

In post 35, Ydrasse wrote:@unowen: what about italiano’s post made you think it was suspicious?

He voted the mod, minimizing engagement. If I had reasons beyond what DrPepper was clearly getting at I would have included them with my vote. It's not a slam dunk but definitely a better vote than random.

I gather you don't agree that the mod vote was notable?

not really, no. i feel that thinking it suspicious is a bit of a stretch, really — people in rvs are going to be a bit more silly/lighthearted until people start really scumhunting. that, and i'm of the opinion that mafia are more likely to come into this game with a serious attitude than something silly that draws attention to them.

^ then what's the point of RVS then?
Even if it's a random vote, the point of RVS is to gain information from why the random votes were made. I.e. if you give a vote without information, then it's a reason to talk about you.

That being said, I actually think 72 is scummier, but lets wait for Italiano

In post 39, DoctorPepper wrote:^ then what's the point of RVS then?
Even if it's a random vote, the point of RVS is to gain information from why the random votes were made. I.e. if you give a vote without information, then it's a reason to talk about you.

That being said, I actually think 72 is scummier, but lets wait for Italiano

that's fair! i guess i just didn't think anything of someone being silly personally, so i didn't understand the connection of, "this is a bad way to start off."

so far, people have kind of kicked off out of rvs and i haven't had to make that sort of analysis/try to jump on something myself.

In post 21, 72offsuit wrote:

In post 19, DoctorPepper wrote:

In post 17, ItalianoVD wrote:Looks like we're playing together again pii. What's up bud.

Oh yeah

VOTE: Micc

As a golden gopher fan, I can't believe he's broadcasting that thing in his avatar.

VOTE: Italiano

Let's leave RVS. Anyone can tell me why this vote is scummy?

Signalling leaving RvS pretty much defeats the purpose of what follows.

It's like telling someone, "don't worry, there won't be any side effects to this new medication, it's just a placebo".

In post 22, DoctorPepper wrote:Sorry but what was the point of that post?

In post 24, UNOwen wrote:Hello everyone
This looks like a good place to start VOTE: ItalianoVD

In post 21, 72offsuit wrote: Signalling leaving RvS pretty much defeats the purpose of what follows.

It's like telling someone, "don't worry, there won't be any side effects to this new medication, it's just a placebo".

Can you explain what you mean by this?

I'm saying DP's "Let's leave RVS" is LAMISTY and forced. Doesn't sound natural to me.

In post 30, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:I agree with your point on Owen ,but it is in the early stages.
I don't know if 26 is indicative of anything yet.

Fence-sitting. Why mention it if you aren't going to make a call either way?

@ Everyone:

1) What is your experience with playing mafia?
2) Do you prefer playing town or scum?
3) What do you think of the Policy lynch of Lynch All Lurkers?

In post 39, DoctorPepper wrote:^ then what's the point of RVS then?
Even if it's a random vote, the point of RVS is to gain information from why the random votes were made. I.e. if you give a vote without information, then it's a reason to talk about you.

That being said, I actually think 72 is scummier, but lets wait for Italiano

So what is !scum72offsuit's agenda and how does it further !scum victory condition?

By the way, need more votes on Dunce.

Classic greeting-the-entire-thread scum tell:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=79490

Well you're clearly discrediting my take as being forced.

Would it have been different if I didn't say "let's leave RVS"?

In post 47, DoctorPepper wrote:Well you're clearly discrediting my take as being forced.

Would it have been different if I didn't say "let's leave RVS"?

1. What do you mean by "discrediting"?
I'm saying your post gives me a non-genuine/forced/fake sort of vibe.

2. Yes, as the "let's leave RVS" on its own is LAMISTY. The argument against Italiano, independently of "let's leave RVS" though, is really lame.
I don;t see a scum-rolling player sitting there thinking, "oh gee, I'm really worried my RVS-vote (which is exactly what is expected of you and what pretty much everyone is doing) will draw suspicion towards, I'll vote the mod instead"

3. Do you think RVS voting the mod is scummier, less scummy, or neither, as compared to not RVS voting at all?

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