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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:04 pm
by bugspray
Right, and I can't just leave the dance
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:43 pm
by Genghis Khan
In post 7, HoldenGolden wrote:"The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters." -Genghis Khan.
VOTE: Genghis Khan for being to god damn good at making love
THAT'S RIGHT. I AM LOVERS WITH EVERYONE HERE.
IF YOU LYNCH ME, WE ALL DIE.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:45 pm
by SleeperSoul
I think
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p5474325 makes a pretty good argument for mass claiming lovers day 1.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:09 pm
by HoldenGolden
Here's how I see it:
I agree we should eventually mass claim all lover pairs for the reasons outlined there (although i disagree that mafia doesnt gain as much). However, I do find some addtional value in seeing what arises before the claim in terms of reads and how they hold up after the reveal if info.
I cant go that much in depth, since If we end up doing it I rather not telegraph mafia any clue how to react, but for example: Player A scum reads both player B and C. B and C turns out to be a lover pair. How will A respond?
I will admit I just realized a potential flaw which is that we only have four day long day phases, so this may be to chaotic to try and pull off, analyze, and make a lynch in that short timeframe. Nonetheless, I think it's something that should be considered.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:36 pm
by Doctor Drew
I say we just lynch sleeper and all hi5 each other for a quality D1.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:40 pm
by SleeperSoul
Would that really be quality though? Sounds kinda boring. There should be more drama!
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:43 pm
by Doctor Drew
In post 30, SleeperSoul wrote:
Would that really be quality though? Sounds kinda boring. There should be more drama!
I won't disagree that point, but best to get obvScum out of the way early........finding your buddy is the tricky part.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:45 pm
by SleeperSoul
@HoldenGolden Whatever we do, we should only claim if everyone claims. Your theorycrafting is already giving me headaches. I think massclaim right away will make everything simpler for everyone, giving a net benefit to town since we outnumber mafia.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:51 pm
by HoldenGolden
In post 31, Doctor Drew wrote: In post 30, SleeperSoul wrote:
Would that really be quality though? Sounds kinda boring. There should be more drama!
I won't disagree that point, but best to get obvScum out of the way early........finding your buddy is the tricky part.
That's why you tenderize them; slowly pressure cooking them over the day phase until they bark out their partner like a snitch.
In post 32, SleeperSoul wrote:@HoldenGolden Whatever we do, we should only claim if everyone claims. Your theorycrafting is already giving me headaches. I think massclaim right away will make everything simpler for everyone, giving a net benefit to town since we outnumber mafia.
If people agree, sure. We can do it now. All I'm saying is to delay an universal mass claim to gather more info to help town after the claim then what we would get mass claiming now.
Would you like to claim your mafia partner while the rest of the crowd debates?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:56 pm
by Doctor Drew
I will say that my lover hasn't been all that active in our PT, not sure if it is a time zone thing........or I fear I did something to anger my lover!
I am broken hearted now.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:59 pm
by HoldenGolden
I'm sure my lover and I can adopt you drew. File a divorce and we can harmonize in a polyamorous relationship.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:03 pm
by SleeperSoul
In post 33, HoldenGolden wrote:Would you like to claim your mafia partner while the rest of the crowd debates?
I don't want town to find out about our little secret.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:04 pm
by Doctor Drew
In post 35, HoldenGolden wrote:I'm sure my lover and I can adopt you drew. File a divorce and we can harmonize in a polyamorous relationship.
Kinky
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:08 pm
by votato
im the cop btw
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:12 pm
by SleeperSoul
K guys, I'm going to be sheeping votato the whole game
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:16 pm
by votato
you have to get with my friends
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:17 pm
by HoldenGolden
Follow the cop is a weak strategy. It never works at all. That's why they changed the newbie setup years ago so cops can't be followed.
Plus I CC: I'm a lover watcher. Nobody is allowed to make love without me watching. There can be only room for one invest role in this town.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: votato
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:17 pm
by votato
who else is getting on the "sheep votato" train?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:17 pm
by votato
In post 41, HoldenGolden wrote:Follow the cop is a weak strategy. It never works at all. That's why they changed the newbie setup years ago so cops can't be followed.
Plus I CC: I'm a lover watcher. Nobody is allowed to make love without me watching. There can be only room for one invest role in this town.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: votato
isnt that more of a voyeur?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:19 pm
by HoldenGolden
Its 2020. Dont role shame me.
Votato what do you think of mass claiming?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:20 pm
by Doctor Drew
Holden, you disappoint me on many levels.
Pre Edit: I should say I am in favor of mass claiming.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:22 pm
by votato
hmm in general im not a fan of it. at least not on day 1. the only thing we gain from claiming is associations, and we dont want to be speculating based on associations pre-flip. so day 2 we can do it if we want, but today nono. day 1 scum are somewhat in the dark, but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.
i feel like people always put too much effort into gimmicking a given setup and too little time scumhunting.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:27 pm
by Tuxedo Mask
I agree with Votey. (Trying a nickname how does it feel? I kind of instantly hate.) He is one smart and sexy unicorn.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:28 pm
by SleeperSoul
votato did you read this?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p5474325
Personally I think massclaiming on day 2 is more gimmicky than on day 1.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:32 pm
by votato
In post 47, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I agree with Votey. (Trying a nickname how does it feel? I kind of instantly hate.) He is one smart and sexy unicorn.
hawt. nicknames are fine, but that one just sounds like im full of votes. vode, vovo, vo, tater, tato, my love, etc all work tho. if you're sold on votey i will try to learn to respond to it i guess. im not that picky. Some people call me Taylor (as in Taylor Swift). Dunno if that helps though.
i did read it. what makes the day 2 massclaim gimmicky?