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Redados(1)

~ Porkens(3)

Porkens(1)

~ MiniMegabyte(6)

Micc(1)

~ ItalianoVD(4)

GeniusGamer(1)

~ Micc(3)


Not Voting (5): shellyc(0), N0bleNoob(0), Redados(4), GeniusGamer(0), T-Bone(0)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-24 16:20:10)

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In post 22, MiniMegabyte wrote:

In post 19, ItalianoVD wrote:BTW good to see you again Mini. Apologies for voting you off last game.

You too Italiano, kind of brought it on myself with not being active much.

The scum played into it very well, but now it’ll be something you can look into if it happens this game. Hopefully we can all stay as active as possible.

In post 21, Redados wrote:20

I would not want the day to end so early! We have ten whole days of discussion where we can gather more information

2 votes isn’t close to day ending, and pressure promotes discussion. This is not a good reason to unvote. Why did you really unvote?

In post 24, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 20, Porkens wrote:VOTE: redados why do you care how many votes they have on them?

Why do you care about why he cares how many votes they have on them?

See above

Why do you care about why he cares about why...

I guess I want to know what the thread title is 2019 instead of 2020.

In post 28, Redados wrote:Why do you care about why he cares about why...

He gets it.

In post 17, MiniMegabyte wrote:As town it would be just a guess and seeing what their reaction would be to try and gain information would be my guess. But as scum you would vote them knowing they are town and to start to lower the numbers?

good stuff. now all you need to do is work out which of these things you think is most likely and you will have formed a read.

you can then share that read with the rest of the game, maybe even make a vote in accordance with what you think.

and thus these random votes we've made have turned into something meaningful. RVS is over and the rest of the game begins.

@Porkens - I stand by what I said!

VOTE: ItalianoVD
I didn't care for post 24. feels non productive and actually a bit harmful to whatever Porken's goal is by asking Redados the original question.

Hmm... interesting. Now, how shall we begin fruitful discussion?

In post 33, GeniusGamer wrote:Hmm... interesting. Now, how shall we begin fruitful discussion?

What’s interesting?

In post 32, Micc wrote:VOTE: ItalianoVD
I didn't care for post 24. feels non productive and actually a bit harmful to whatever Porken's goal is by asking Redados the original question.

I’m questioning the questioner; with a bit of tongue in cheek, but questioning him nonetheless.

ok what id you learn from asking your question?

In post 28, Redados wrote: I guess I want to know what the thread title is 2019 instead of 2020.

This is probably the 2019th Newbie Game.

In post 27, Porkens wrote: 2 votes isn’t close to day ending, and pressure promotes discussion. This is not a good reason to unvote. Why did you really unvote?

My question was with a bit of jest. Personally I agree and think the unvote is weird and deserves pressure.

In post 36, Micc wrote:ok what id you learn from asking your question?

His answer makes sense. I agree.

@Micc How is it non productive?

In post 34, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 33, GeniusGamer wrote:Hmm... interesting. Now, how shall we begin fruitful discussion?

What’s interesting?

The current discussion is interesting. Even the flimsy RVS votes tell you about the players.

I assume Micc has left RVS according to 32. Still got players who haven’t checked in yet. Like to hear from those people.

Here are my (very) initial reads:

ShellyC - hasn’t posted

N0bleNoob - hasn’t posted

MiniMegabyte - learning good lessons, I don’t have a read yet but answering Micc’s questions productively, trying to work through it

ItalianoVD - kind of just talking to talk at this point, but it’s early in the day

GeniusGamer - hasn’t posted a ton so no read at this point. Has managed to say nothing in the course of like three posts though

Micc - in teaching/explaining mode but I have learned nothing about his alignment based on how he is playing currently. Appreciate you talking through decisions though, it helps me understand better!

Porkens - being tough on me, but I understand they’re just trying to get me to talk! I don’t really have an alignment read at this point.

T-Bone - hasn’t posted

VOTE: ShellyC because it’s time for everyone to be talking!

I won't use my vote yet, but I do think that people should start to talk. I'm considering a wagon on ShellyC...

In post 43, Redados wrote:Here are my (very) initial reads:

ShellyC - hasn’t posted

N0bleNoob - hasn’t posted

MiniMegabyte - learning good lessons, I don’t have a read yet but answering Micc’s questions productively, trying to work through it

ItalianoVD - kind of just talking to talk at this point, but it’s early in the day

GeniusGamer - hasn’t posted a ton so no read at this point. Has managed to say nothing in the course of like three posts though

Micc - in teaching/explaining mode but I have learned nothing about his alignment based on how he is playing currently. Appreciate you talking through decisions though, it helps me understand better!

Porkens - being tough on me, but I understand they’re just trying to get me to talk! I don’t really have an alignment read at this point.

T-Bone - hasn’t posted

VOTE: ShellyC because it’s time for everyone to be talking!

VOTE: shellyC

We've got three people who haven't posted. For all we know, no scum have posted yet. I hope they do some participating soon, 'cause we need to get some reads on them.

I don’t really have any reads at the moment either everyone is just really talking except those three that haven’t posted yet. Could be a play as scum to just not respond till questioned? Not sure

Incredibly sorry for not posting yet because of my timezone. I'm new to forum mafia and according to what I know this is still a stage of random voting.
So as town we've got to progress from the RVS into actual leads and discussion.
for being a silent guy.

In post 40, ItalianoVD wrote:@Micc How is it non productive?

I feel like it's pretty clear that the reason Porkens asked the question is to launch into a push of some sort. I know this because Porkens voted in the same post.

i guess if you weren't able to deduct that reason out yourself then there's some value in asking your question. I'm giving you credit for deduction skills that are at least a little bit better than than having watched you play a game.

so then I look at how you asked the question, as you said yourself mostly in jest. By doing that you downplay the importance or seriousness of the push that Porkens is about to launch into before it even happens. And you can see just by looking at Redados's posts that a reasonably serious answer was given in post 21, but then by post 28 he's basically dodging Porkens follow up by continuing on your joke.

so i overall i feel like at best you asked the most softball of questions without really thinking about it, and at the worst you sabotaged Porkens attempt to make a read. those things lean mafia indicative to me.